After the seduction community collapsed, which I am very happy to have played a major role in (cf. Debunking the Seduction Community), several follow-up communities sprang up. An existing one got an influx of people, too. The existing community that absorbed part of the old seduction community is MGTOW, i.e. Men Going Their Own Way. MGTOW as a movement has a bit of a split personality. The old guard consisted largely of men who had enough of women, which may or may not have been due to the legal ramifications of getting involved with the ‘fair sex’. After the seduction community collapsed, plenty of guys who never got anywhere with women decided that women aren’t all that and started to wear their sour grapes as a badge of honor. They couldn’t get women, but that’s fine because they don’t want them anyway, just like Aesop’s fox is not interested in the juicy grapes that make it salivate.
Some people graduated from the Red Pill to the Black Pill. Others moved on from the Seduction Community to the Black Pill directly. In short, the Black Pill may sound familiar if you have read my book Minimal Game, in which I stress the importance of looks, status, and money, and give concrete suggestions on how to improve, in addition to laying out a concise and effective plan for getting girls. The Black Pill is not so much about improvement, though. Instead, often people exhibit a downright defeatist attitude. They think that because they aren’t 6’6″ with a 7-figure paycheck and an 8″ cock, they have no chance at all in the dating market. Of course, I am exaggerating here.
I applaud the Black Pill for its honesty. There are some guys who outright tell you that they are very short and therefore never got anywhere with girls. Sure, if you are a guy with a not-so-regal height of five feet, you will have your work cut out for you. Then there is the issue about race, which is also openly discussed. I came across an account written by a black guy who openly discussed some of the experiences he has had, realizing that a good-looking white guy tends, ceteris paribus, to win out over a good-looking black guy. Again, in the Seduction Community and the Red Pill, people would tell you to work on your “inner game” to overcome your “limiting belief.”
Yet, I have also come across people who dramatically underestimate their looks. These days, we are bombarded with pictures of good-looking people, which can make even an above-average looking man feel insufficient. Yet, that is a gross distortion. Sure, if you are not in the top quartile in terms of looks, your chances for no-strings-attached hookups are limited. However, I find it baffling when a young guy tells me that he thinks he’s doomed to be “forever alone” because he does not have model-caliber looks. In particular, I am thinking of a recent client I had, a 19-year-old guy whom I thought to be really good-looking. I’d say his face was about an 8.5, he’s in great shape, too. His height is holding him back a bit as he’s “only” 5’10”. You can work on your height a bit. Fixing your posture is one thing. Then, getting shoes with a small heel and possibly inlays can make a big difference.
The hint about using inlays is not even the main issue. Instead, it is that young guys in their teens and early 20s are in a particularly difficult spot. In high-school, they may have gotten some attention from women roughly their age, but once people move on to university, the competition opens up. Suddenly, that hot
Another issue is that a guy’s life can improve dramatically within a few short years. That same freshman, now a senior or a recent graduate, suddenly finds himself doing a lot better with younger women because he is now reaping the benefits those older guys used to reap. Of course, if you get a decent career going, your dating life can dramatically improve. For instance, I know guys who went from having long dry-spells — some went years between random hookups — to going through ten, twenty women a year because suddenly they get a lot of matches on online dating sites. They were the same guys, but their circumstances changed. Heck, they even ended up looking worse because they work so much, but a solid middle-class income and an apartment in a trendy location will get you some attention if you’re in your mid-to-late twenties and you live in a city bursting with young and not so young hoes. True, these guys don’t always bang the hottest women, but for
Even though looks, money, and status matter a lot, it is not the case that you are competing against guys who are 10s in every single category. At least normally you don’t. This means that with a bit of work you can dramatically improve your chances with women. This does not mean that if you are genuinely disadvantaged, say you suffer from dwarfism, a decent paycheck, a nice suit and a big biceps will get you laid. No, you most likely will be screwed. However, those people, the genuinely hopeless, are just a few
From what I gather, the Black Pill is surprisingly vibrant. For instance, on a recent stream by FaceandLMS, a YouTube channel in that niche, possibly the biggest one, had more than 700 viewers. At the same time, Rollo Tomassi was streaming as well. He is big in Red Pill circles. His books have probably sold hundreds of thousands of copies. In short, he’s a big name. FaceandLMS is a complete nobody. He doesn’t have a website. He doesn’t sell books or
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