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  1. I finally got around to reading the transcript of Putin’s war declaration, er, his announcement of a “special military operation” against the Ukraine:
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-24/full-transcript-vladimir-putin-s-televised-address-to-russia-on-ukraine-feb-24
    I think it is very good. It is a concise summary of the inexcusable behavior of ZOG. The entire transcript is worth reading. I quite liked the central part:

    Of course, practice, international relations and the rules regulating them had to take into account the changes that took place in the world [EDIT: Putin refers to the collapse of the Soviet Union] and in the balance of forces. However, this should have been done professionally, smoothly, patiently, and with due regard and respect for the interests of all states and one’s own responsibility. Instead, we saw a state of euphoria created by the feeling of absolute superiority, a kind of modern absolutism, coupled with the low cultural standards and arrogance of those who formulated and pushed through decisions that suited only themselves. The situation took a different turn.

    There are many examples of this. First a bloody military operation was waged against Belgrade, without the UN Security Council’s sanction but with combat aircraft and missiles used in the heart of Europe. The bombing of peaceful cities and vital infrastructure went on for several weeks. I have to recall these facts, because some Western colleagues prefer to forget them, and when we mentioned the event, they prefer to avoid speaking about international law, instead emphasising the circumstances which they interpret as they think necessary.

    Then came the turn of Iraq, Libya and Syria. The illegal use of military power against Libya and the distortion of all the UN Security Council decisions on Libya ruined the state, created a huge seat of international terrorism, and pushed the country towards a humanitarian catastrophe, into the vortex of a civil war, which has continued there for years. The tragedy, which was created for hundreds of thousands and even millions of people not only in Libya but in the whole region, has led to a large-scale exodus from the Middle East and North Africa to Europe.

    A similar fate was also prepared for Syria. The combat operations conducted by the Western coalition in that country without the Syrian government’s approval or UN Security Council’s sanction can only be defined as aggression and intervention.

    But the example that stands apart from the above events is, of course, the invasion of Iraq without any legal grounds. They used the pretext of allegedly reliable information available in the United States about the presence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. To prove that allegation, the US Secretary of State held up a vial with white power, publicly, for the whole world to see, assuring the international community that it was a chemical warfare agent created in Iraq. It later turned out that all of that was a fake and a sham, and that Iraq did not have any chemical weapons. Incredible and shocking but true. We witnessed lies made at the highest state level and voiced from the high UN rostrum. As a result we see a tremendous loss in human life, damage, destruction, and a colossal upsurge of terrorism.

    Overall, it appears that nearly everywhere, in many regions of the world where the United States brought its law and order, this created bloody, non-healing wounds and the curse of international terrorism and extremism. I have only mentioned the most glaring but far from only examples of disregard for international law.

    This array includes promises not to expand NATO eastwards even by an inch. To reiterate: they have deceived us, or, to put it simply, they have played us. Sure, one often hears that politics is a dirty business. It could be, but it shouldn’t be as dirty as it is now, not to such an extent. This type of con-artist behaviour is contrary not only to the principles of international relations but also and above all to the generally accepted norms of morality and ethics. Where is justice and truth here? Just lies and hypocrisy all around.

    1. I agree with Putin. Especially that the Eastern Bloc nations embraced the undesirable aspects of the west. Communism lost but social Marxism decidedely won the day.

    2. I wondered if I was the only one, well, wondering about all this Ukraine/Russia conflict.

      Mainstream media and social media are all “We are with Ukraine”…

      … and then there is this outright banning of Russian sports teams and other participation.

      (But totally ignoring that there was little outcry when USA bombs the f**k out of Iraq, Libya, etc.

      It’s a simplistic take – but it seems to be, ‘whatever mainstream is pushing, then support the opposite’.

      Gawd, I am seeing all this adulation for the Ukranian comedian, I mean, president. “He’s a war hero!”

      I am sure he’s hiding the f**k out…although media would let you believe he’s personally shooting down MiG fighter jets with a pistol.

    3. The Ukraine conflict is merely the next step in clown word. Remember that a CIA-instigated color revolution put the current president of the Ukraine in place. Russians in the border region were mistreated by the government. Meanwhile, the Ukraine collaborated on setting up biochemical labs, ramped up nuclear armament, and was built up by NATO as a beachhead for a possible attack on Russia. It is not as if there are no similarities to the Cuba missile crisis here. Then Putin puts his foot down, recognized two breakaway provinces, and wants to ensure the safety of his people. This angle seems perfectly reasonable for me. Yet, when I look at mainstream media, I see a vast ocean of clown world bullshit. Highlights for the last few days include:
      – The media telling me that the Russians are poorly organized, running out of fuel and whatnot, ignoring that the attack is intended to spare civilian lives; give the man some props for this surgical operation as opposed to US-style carpet-bombing of civilians
      – Germany pledging to spend 100 billion euros on its military
      – The EU providing 500 million euros to the Ukraine
      – Germany wanting to take in “all refugees”, regardless of skin color (there are a lot of people of a darker persuasion stranded in that country)
      – Sweden declaring that they will under not circumstances accept Ukrainian refugees, because they already have enough white people, thank you very much
      – the media telling me that the president is fighting in the trenches and his wife supposedly going hand-to-hand against Russian Spetsnaz
      – Some Democrat faggot falling for the Sam-Hyde-mass-killer meme as someone claimed that he is the “Ghost of Kyiv”, yet another media fabrication
      – The EU apparently starting the process of admitting the Ukraine as a member state, rules and regulations be damned
      – Mass demonstrations against Putin in the West going ahead without a hitch, yet if you protest against the still ongoing Covid tyranny in Germany, the police will breathe down your neck
      – The WHO pushing through some supra-national legislation on global mass-vaxxing, so that the next plandemic does not get stopped in its tracks

      Quite frankly, if there is no good reason otherwise, the default of not trusting whatever the mainstream says is the rational choice. Some of the articles I read are ludicrous. One day, Russia’s invasion has failed, the next day, when they encircle Kyiv (what the eff happened to the spelling “Kiev”?), I am reading that the Russians are “desperate” because they encircled that city. Similarly, I get to see pictures that make Putin look like a sickly, old man with a rather pale complexion, obviously photoshopped, of course. They paint a picture of him being a complete lunatic, despite Russia having sought a peaceful resolution for about 30 years. The manipulation is off the charts.

    4. “It’s a simplistic take – but it seems to be, ‘whatever mainstream is pushing, then support the opposite’.”

      I’ve fought against this impulse for a long time, trust me. But it’s gotten to the point where I just don’t give a single credit to the MSM anymore. If they’ve lied about so much, how can you trust them in other things? I have no reason to be Putin’s fan (the regime in Nicaragua has been sustained in part by him), but not even in times of the freaking Soviet Union, when the Russians were actually invading the shit out of other countries and propping up regimes left and right all over the world, there was nowhere this level of unified condemnation. It’s absurd.

    5. @ Manuel

      In 1945, the americans and the soviets cut a backroom deal to carve up Europe and the Far East into spheres of influence, but in practice it took them a almost years of back and forth to be able to make it work. The reason is that since deals between nations, either written, unwritten, or otherwise, are unenforceable by a third superior party, so a lot hinges on the credibility and perceptions of the actors. US and Russian disputes around the Turkish Straits, Persia and Korea during the following years undermined this mutual credibility, not to mention the question of how to organize and administer postwar Germany.

      The relationship was stabilised only around 1963, when Mutually Assured Destruction was achieved (this happened because the soviet nuclear arsenal caught up enough with the American one that year, so the US lost the nuclear “first strike advantage” they had enjoyed since the early 1950s).

      Notice that America/NATO did not lift a finger to help the hungarians in 1956, or the czech in 1968. Likewise, outside of Cuba, Soviet support for communists in Latin America (USA’s back yard) was actually very limited. Africa, the Middle East, or Asia were more disputed.

      It is ludicrous to argue to Russia that spheres of influence are an obsolete geostrategic concept while your own sphere of influence in Latin America is secure, and you are steadily expanding your other sphere of influence in Europe up to under their nose.

      Putin is not a good guy, but to his credit he (and and others before him) have been giving fair warnings for years of what was to come. The invasion of Ukraine looks unprovoked only if you have not been paying attention to the actions of NATO during the last couple decades, and the actions of Ukraine since Yanukovich was ousted.

    6. @Yarara: great comment. You don’t need to believe Putin’s a good guy to assess that there’s something wrong about the credibility being given to one side’s propaganda over the other side’s propaganda. Coupled with all the Covid bullshit from the last two years, it’s enough to make you a little nauseous…

      Let’s play a game: whose side could Ubermensch be on? And his mother…

    7. @Manuel
      Friendly advice: the Uber & his mom thing, i really dont think its funny anymore. I find it detracts from the level of discussion this blog has (or used to have)

      Regarding Ukraine: Putins excuses to justify the invasion in the short term are bullshit, the same way the polish attack on a german radio station in 1939, or the Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or Iraqs WMDs more recently. Its short term bullshit in service of larger strategic interests, that the common pleb cannot see because he does not usually deal in long term strategic thinking at the highest level. In this regard, I fully understand why Russia (not Putin, this is a consensus among russian elites) is acting now, because the threat from NATO is too long term to be perceived CLEARLY today, but the trends are all going in the wrong direction. So its better to act now than in 10 or 20 years.

      That being said, the invasion seems to have been premised on faulty political assumptions about the expected level of acceptance vs resistance from the ukrainian side. It does not mean Russia will lose, but they will pay a higher cost, and they will be forced to make Ukraine pay an even bigger cost.

      Worst part is, in the long term Ukraine is indefensible, and even if you kick Russias butt today, unlike Afghanistan or Vietnam, they are not in some faraway place, they are on your doorstep. Or you are on theirs. Either way you will be forced to live side by side with them forever. The most prudent course of action for them would be to acvommodate Russia.

      Attempting to turn Ukraine into another Afghanistan for Russia will mostly hurt Ukrainians… and the West is encouraging it.

    8. “Uber’s mom” is simply a stand-in for purported mainstream opinion. These days, by the way, she no longer objects to anti-Covid protests, which spread the virus. Instead, she is busy protesting in big crowds against Russia because, just like with BLM, this virus has a finely tuned sense for political correctness, just like “science” itself.

      Hitler invaded Poland in order to protect the ethnic German minority, which was systematically suppressed — genocided even — by the government. In fact, Germany tried to resolve this issue diplomatically for years. It almost reminds one of the situation in Ukraine. On that note, I had a conversation with a colleague the other day who compared Putin and Ukraine to Hitler and Poland. To my amusement, I readily agreed with his comparison, but for different reasons. Misinformation is not an invention of the current year.

      I agree that Putin’s overarching goal is to stop the expansion of NATO. In that regard, the Ukraine is the mirror image of Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis. Yet, the trend lines were there years ago already. I would argue that Putin may have wanted to take care of the Ukraine problem a few years ago already, but Trump was wildcard. He could have done anything in response. Joe Brandon, on the other hand, is a total muppet and a perfect symbol of the spiritual decrepitude of the West.

    9. Friendly advice: the Uber & his mom thing, i really dont think its funny anymore. I find it detracts from the level of discussion this blog has (or used to have)

      Speak for yourself. I still chuckle when I see it.

    10. @Yararara

      You’re also missing the point. It’s not just a joke for the sake of making a jab. It’s a lighthearted way of bringing up how something would be distorted/misrepresented by official narratives, soros-trained organizations etc. It’s short, succinct and captures a lot.

    11. Yarara, maybe you missed how Uber facilitated the creation of this meme as he was posting rather heavily for a few weeks back then. He claimed that alternative media reports about huge crowds protesting against Covid measures are all “fake news” because his mom happened to attend a protest in Vienna where, according to her, there were really not a lot of people. Yet, that protest was so big that even the mainstream had reported on it, showing crowds of tens of thousands of people. Uber’s claim was so ridiculous that he well-deserved being made fun of. He then only doubled down on it, turning himself into a laughing stock. As you now, later on the shady rhetorics came out, presumably in an attempt to regain status, trying to put me and others down.

    12. @Alek

      I am, very clearly, speaking for myself. I just dont agree with your interpretation, in my view, the level of the commentary here has been declining for some time.

    13. in my view, the level of the commentary here has been declining for some time.

      That sounds very karen-ish though. Like why would you think you can steer the type of nature of comments to suit your idea of what quality looks like?

      You can always get a refund if you’re not happy with the service the commenters here are providing you… oh wait…

    14. Yeah, that kind of reply right there is what I mean. Not helpful. I dont intend to singlehandedly steer the conversation, of course. But as a longtime participant I am trying to make a useful critique.

      I have been around this community for over a decade now, and i have seen it evolve over time. In the last few years, I think the quality of conversation has declined. What should I do? Take your hint and just leave? Sure, I could do that, as many other once engaged members have. Or I could be a friend and point out that I think there is a problem here.

    15. @Yarara

      I got a stupid question here. In your opinion, did Ukraine have the option at any time to pull a WW2-Switzerland, declare itself neutral, deal/trade with both sides and do shady shit under the table when nobody was looking?
      Did they really have to pick a side?

    16. @Neutral

      Entirely neutral, probably not, buffer states rarely are. It could have been militarily neutral but Russia-friendly, thats how it had been before, and that was always on the cards until fairly recently.

      Neutral but western-friendly (like Finland) is a much harder sell, because Ukraine is strategically much more important than Finland.

      But by now I am not sure it looks like a viable solution anymore.

      Implementing Minsk II would have been a step in the right direction, but Kiev never lifted a finger to do so. Right now I suspect this will end with a partition of Ukraine, and/or Russian withdrawal tied to the actual implementation of Minsk III or whatever they call the next agreement.

    17. Moreover, Switzerland was nobodys buffer against anyone else during ww2. The mountainous terrain makes it hard to conquer, and there is really nothing of geostrategic value there to make it worth conquering.

      Ukraine on the other hand is an open plain filled with transit corridors for land communications, energy transport, sea access, etc… by comparison, valuable and easy to traverse by invading forces from any side.

    18. @Yarara: fair enough. In fact, I’m not entirely sold on Ubermensch being a professional troll, though towards the end he was absolutely behaving as a concern troll, as I mentioned before. What I find funny is the actual fact of him becoming a “yo mama” joke in a less sophomoric fashion, which is quite an achievement, and not the joke itself.

      Regarding the quality of commentary here: what’s happened is that Aaron has suffered a slow but drastic transformation, and the guys who stick around either adapt to it or leave. Current Aaron would deem his former self of 10 years ago a degenerate (hell, his moniker is “Sleazy” after all) despite looking at his partying days as a learning experience not worth lamenting.

      I think most of us here agree on about 80 – 90% of stuff, the main point of contention being: how willing are you to jump to the conclusion that there is a high, global level of conspiracy in all the bullshit they’re trying to feed us. Sometimes there are events that make us jump through bullshit tolerance thresholds rather quickly, like Trump’s election in my case. After that, I just couldn’t accept treating Climate Change as gospel from the same people who lied so much about everything else.

      How many leaps are left for you and me to have?

    19. I think he will drop the refugee bomb. his friend in turkey will get them to ukraine and he will unleash them on the EU like Belarus did to Poland beginning of the year. at least it will be one of the things he might do.

      Europe is done when they don’t get the head out of the ass of america. And those dumb fucks want to be independent of Russia by getting rid of fossil fuels. what they don’t think about is that they need rare earth metals for regenerative energies. and where do you find 80% of it in the world? China and Russia or African countries that are controlled by both of them.

    20. Refugees from the Ukraine are already flooding into Europe. Unlike last time, when we got doctors and engineers, this time we get “Ukrainian students” but it is mostly the same group of Africans and Middle Easterners. I really wonder they were studying in the Ukraine. If you wonder why they were in the Ukraine, then look back a few months when Soros and his buddies were using those people as battering rams to flood Poland, albeit unsuccessfully.

      EDIT: Here is an article on those “Ukrainian students” that have been arriving in Germany.

  2. One of the German healthcare providers released data showing that 2% of the vaxxed had serious complications, i.e. serious enough that they sought medical help:
    https://www.welt.de/bin/Nebenwirkungen_bin-237107199.pdf
    Thankfully, the vaxx is “safe and effective” and does not have any side effects.

    On the note of side effects, one of my friends suffers from an auto-immune disorder. After the second shot, he got small blisters on this thumb. They are now spreading, covering an area of about one square inch:
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bullous-pemphigoid/symptoms-causes/syc-20350414
    It does not look nearly as bad as on this picture but surely this is nothing you would like to get. He also knows of other vaxxed who similarly suffer from auto-immune disorders. Of course, according to Uber’s mom, this is is only a coincidence and not at all proof that the vaxx is to blame, despite there being a guideline that in the case of an experimental procedure, that very procedure is considered causal in the absence of a better explanation.

    1. The person responsible for releasing the data about vaxx injuries as recorded by that big German insurance company was summarily dismissed:
      https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article237236519/Nach-Aussagen-zu-Impfnebenwirkungen-Vorstand-der-BKK-ProVita-ist-fristlos-gekuendigt.html
      According to a cited “insider” in that article, the dismissal is grotesquely illegal, but the employer did it anyway. Surely, this has nothing at all to do with the elites and their henchmen exerting any pressure on anybody.

  3. Aaron,
    When a Chad is surrounded by other Chads, does this ever make him feel like those other Chads are also a sexual threat and perhaps his confidence drops?

    1. Jealousy is a part of human nature. Confidence is a spectrum. I would say it’s normal to be envious as long as it doesn’t consume you. Like not hating guys that fuck hotter girls, especially if they’ve never wronged you. Also, it can drive one to improve.

    2. If he has an extensive sexual history and he’s getting some on the reg, he wouldn’t care. Once the mystique of sex dissolves, it’s amazing how little of a shit you give about such things.

      It’s like vanilla ice cream, when you’re four years old, you think it’s the best thing in the world, and if you’re told you can’t have any, you’re devastated. But when you’re older, your taste buds desensitize, your sense of object permanence develops, vanilla ice cream ain’t the gold standard it once was.

    3. In my business school lot of other guys were well above average. I Wonder if it affected me negatively because it was difficult to get laid in that environnent. After that when I began to go out With more average people I finally understood that I was more attractive that I tough.

  4. Since the news is so depressing lately and I needed a laugh, I hopped over to John Anthony’s channel and he sure delivered.

    I was skimming this video and around 1:21:00 and was in disbelief at what he said.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMBDKX6fJSg

    John claims he will sue Reddit and get the usernames and IP addresses of the people “slandering him” lol. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing he’s ever said and that’s saying something.

    First, like Reddit would ever give that info to him. It would be a total violation of privacy. Plus, if people are trolling him hard, they are likely using fake emails and VPNs to begin with. Seems like he’s targeting men with no sexual experience or common sense.

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