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  1. It’s totally normal that the CDC would manipulate the data to make it look as if the vaxx is working. There’s nothing to see here, goy!

    On a related note, a colleague of mine recently felt the need to tell me that he has finally gotten the vaxx and that after a few days of side effects (high fever and headache), he’s finally feeling well again. As he was concerned about the side effects, he contacted his doctor who told him that it was normal among the younger vaxxed to get such side effects, but that they are rare among the old. I asked how it is possible that someone young with a healthy immune system should be expected to have more side effects than the old and frail, and he gave me a long deer-in-headlights look. It was as if this has never even occurred to him. Those people seem to lack any facility for critical thinking.

    1. Yeah, maybe being intelligent is not the same as being wise?
      I would say that person with sub 90iq cannot be wise. But also it’s possible to be intelligent and stupid (not wise).

      I’ve seen countless times high-intelligent person doing stupid things. Taking the vax is extremely stupid.

    2. Most of the symptoms of an infection, such as fever, cough, mucus, joint aches etc are actually an effect of the immune system at work, not the infection itself. So younger people having more side effects of a vaccine actually makes sense.

    3. You may want to think about what you just wrote and what it implies for the older vaxxed. There is an implication you are apparently unaware of.

  2. Knowledge of a bit of history can be rather illuminating. On this note, here’s the CDC recommending people to spray DDT at home and in their neighborhood:
    In case you are unaware of it, DDT has been banned even for agricultural use in 2004. It has been a long time since it was marketed to housewives. Of course, early opponents of DDT for home use were “science deniers”. After all, it is much worse to have a mosquito in your home than dying of cancer. The IQ90 response is that “nobody could have know this in advance”, and that is precisely the point. By taking the vaxx you are enrolling in a long-term study that will reveal the long-term effects of the vaxx. For me, its enough to know that healthy people are keeling over after taking the vaxx.

  3. Actually DDT is far less dangerous than you’d think once you look into it. There is no evidence that DDT causes cancer, for example, and it is quite safe to use when exposure is moderate. In fact, to this day DDT remains the most cheap and effective killer of malaria-spreading mosquitos. Prior to its near-worldwide ban in the 1970s, worldwide cases of malaria plummeted to record lows. Since then, malaria cases have steadily risen as more expensive, less effective, and potentially more dangerous chemicals are mandated for mosquito extermination.


    1. In any case, it was true that the long-term negative effects of DDT were not understood when the CDC promoted its domestic use. This is quite similar to the current push for mass-vaccination against a (!) coronavirus.

  4. To the people who think COVID is a non-issue, or should be treated as such, which is my instinct as well, what is your reaction to the problems we are seeing in India and the “Indian variant” that has emerged?

    1. This is to some degree alarmist fear-mongering, just as we have seen it with the “deadly” British, South American, and Brazilian mutations. Viruses evolve all the time so there is no shortage of mutations. Also, India is a third-world country with appalling sanitary conditions.

    2. Would it be fair to the virus is thriving in India due to the conditions, and the horror stories are a result of the hospitals being full, which is a result of fear mongering?

    3. As Aaron says, there is a great deal of fearmongering. Countries like Brazil and India have huge populations living in poverty and pretty shitty healthcare systems to begin with.

      Still, the appearance of variants with higher infectiousness (if not necessarilty higher lethality) is very plausibly a byproduct of lockdowns and social distancing. If you understand a little bit of how evolution works it makes a lot of sense.

      Check out this article:

  5. Aaron,
    Have you read on the Islamic Invasion that is going on right now in Spain? I’ve been keeping track for the last few days, and as you noted in some of your blogs, perhaps Islam will take over…
    Westerners need to unite and fight back. Unfortunately, western men have become so pussified.

    1. This is nothing compared to 2016 when more than 1.5 million “doctors and engineers” from Africa and the Middle East flooded in to Europe. The media only writes so much about this new batch of 10,000 highly educated third-worlders because a large part of it has been sent back. Otherwise, they would not even have reported it.

  6. Aaron,

    Do you ever get any clients who want advice on “club game” only to peel away and find out that meeting women in clubs or loud places just flat out doesn’t work them? If so what are the reasons and do you think it’s possible to get out of that state?

    As much as I’ve always tried, though I enjoy the socializing aspect with friends there, loud places like that just get me into my head and I kind of just freeze all night and get into a “deer in headlights” type mode: basically approach anxiety to the max.

    1. I’m sure you’d get desensitized to it if you keep doing it man. If you get that wicked bad anxiety, try this:

      have a goal of meeting one new girl who is fuckable. that’s it. start with something achievable. just meet one girl (that isn’t a landwhale of course). make that your goal if you’re anxiety is really that bad.

      then, of course, take it a little further each time you go out.

    2. Yeah, Chris from GLL gave similar advice as Herkerderker. Setting achievable goals to beat approach anxiety. Even slower. Like to just go up to a girl and ask what time it is. Next time give her a high five when she tells you (touching). And just keep escalating from there.

    3. When it comes to “freezing all night”, how far is the club from your pad?

      Maybe to start off, go talk to one chick. IF you’ve got it in you to get a number, escalate, etc. Go for it. If you’ve got it in you to talk to more chicks, go for it. Now that you’ve accomplished your goal, you could just hang with your friends if you’re still feeling it.

      Once you’ve accomplished your goal, if at any point you feel something “come up”, just go. If you took an Uber with some buds, and yours is really far away, it might be a different story. There have been so many nights where I’ve stayed out longer and drank more than I should have. There was a voice in my head telling me to leave, but I froze, to use your word. Always good to cultivate impulse control.

      When you leave on your own terms, that commands respect.

      Some friends might talk shit “oh, he’s so tired. he’s like an old person.” But deep down, they’ll wish they were taking better care of themselves.

    4. With my clients I first try to get an understanding what their goals are. What sometimes emerges is that what they think they want is not what they really want. In particular, I get curious when I hear about a goal that seems disconnected from a guys life trajectory or sexual history. Figuratively speaking, sometimes guys want to run before they learn to crawl. Others want to bang a lot of chicks in order to impress their friends, and sometimes this is not even obvious to them.

      Your problem seems to be that you don’t seem comfortable with socializing with strangers. Clubs are probably not the best venue to get over this problem.

    5. Aaron,
      In regards to clubs, isn’t more realistic for average looking guys to avoid clubs and meet women in other environments and to simply focus on making money and use escort services? You have highlighted that women don’t lust after average men. I’ve witnessed this phenomenon. Nevertheless, the typical average guy won’t gather the sexual experience they desire since they aren’t Chads.

      Lastly, from your experience and knowledge with club game, when did one-night stands start and become popular?

    6. If you are not a top 10% guy, escorts will have a much better ROI than clubs.

  7. @GLAS lol I’ve seen some of the recommendations on that site. Pretty out there.

    Another thing to keep in mind about clubs is that a shitload of people feel the way Anthony does in there. Usually, they react by drinking more. I was dancing with random chicks at a club one night, and this dude introduced himself to me. He offered to buy me a drink.

    “Thanks man, but I’m feeling a bit queasy tonight unfortunately,” I said.

    He replied by giving me a high-five and said “woah, you’re partying like that and not drinking. Mad respect.”

    Treat it like a game. How far can I push myself and not rely on alcohol.

    1. Also, allow me to point out that I have written a book on Club Game, which covers the topic extensively.

    2. I read Minimal Game. Never got around to Club Game. I’ll prolly pick it up if i’m ever in an area that has a thriving club scene with the types of girls I’m into.

    3. I think most of this is hardwired personally preferences. I doubt you can train yourself much in this regard.
      For a guy who naturally enjoys hanging out in clubs and socializing, it will be much easier just because he doesn’t have to force himself all the time.

    4. @Ubermensch, My experience is that people who have pursued things like counseling and meditation have more neuroplasticity with respect to these kinds of things. I don’t think of myself as naturally social.

      Another example, is the whole “that dog won’t hunt” or “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. That’s certainly the rule. But for those of us who have pursued meditation and counseling, and explored our internal worlds thoroughly, I think we can pick up new skills later in life.

    5. @Herkerderker: yes you can learn new skills, but changing your actual preferences is much harder.

      If you like chocolate, try to make yourself hate chocolate.

      So you might be able to become a skillful socializer, but actually enjoying it, is much harder

    6. ah ok, i see what you’re saying. well, generally, if there’s a thing that lots of people like, there’s a possibility that one can like it at some point. i didn’t like heavy music, now it’s one of my favorite kinds of music. i didn’t like whiskey, now i dig it. i think i saw aaron talk about something he described as “god mode” awhile ago. he’s hyper aware of everyone at the club and can sense which chicks are into him and which aren’t pretty consistently. maybe he can chime in. if one were to get a few god mode experiences at a club, they’d probably feel differently.

    7. @ Herkerderker,
      Yeah Chris has taken solid dating advice on GLL and tried to shoehorn it into his businesses selling various products. I guess he’s doing all right with it, but yeah I wouldn’t buy some of that stuff. The only thing I tried was phenibut (not even his brand). Works pretty well for anxiety, but you have to be very careful about dosage.

  8. In this video you’ll learn what Jews think about goyim:
    Note that these ares statements they were comfortable stating publicly, and they are egregious enough, like one Jew who thinks that non-Jews don’t deserve human rights if they “don’t act like humans.”

    1. This is a reference to the State Dept. massive push for homosexuality. You may have come across the term “globo-homo”, sometimes also extended to “globo-homo-Schlomo”, for reasons that seem to escape me at the moment. Or maybe there is absolutely no reason at all for the latter.

    2. @Aaron:

      I’d never heard that before, had to Google. 🙂 Previously I only heard of “the gay agenda.”

    3. This probably gives you an indication of the shady corners of the Internet I frequent.

    4. @Aaron

      Hahaha, yeah, I bet you almost need a flashlight to find your way there. 😉

  9. The vaxx is totally safe, which is why we are now giving it to children. It is completely irrelevant that 80% of them experience negative side effects as that has nothing to do with the akshually white-suppremacist and racist term “vaccine safety”. Sure, it would be a shame if your white children became sick, suffered severe long-term side effects or died, but then they surely would have gotten sick from something else instead. Besides, we all die anyway, so don’t get your panties in a twist, bigot! Also, the government doesn’t even require parental consent, which clearly shows how much they trust science. I mean, when did governments ever take a decision that was not in your best interest.

    1. @Aaron

      For anyone interested, here are the exact numbers from the source mentioned:

      “In clinical studies, adverse reactions in participants 16 years of age and older included pain at the injection site (84.1%), fatigue (62.9%), headache (55.1%), muscle pain (38.3%), chills (31.9%), joint pain (23.6%), fever (14.2%), injection site swelling (10.5%), injection site redness (9.5%), nausea (1.1%), malaise (0.5%), and lymphadenopathy (0.3%).

      In a clinical study, adverse reactions in adolescents 12 through 15 years of age included pain at the injection site (90.5%), fatigue (77.5%), headache (75.5%), chills (49.2%), muscle pain (42.2%), fever (24.3%), joint pain (20.2%), injection site swelling (9.2%), injection site redness (8.6%), lymphadenopathy (0.8%), and nausea (0.4%).”

      The appendicitis information:

      “Appendicitis was reported as a serious adverse event for 12 participants, and numerically higher in the vaccine group, 8 vaccine participants and 4 placebo participants. Currently available information is insufficient to determine a causal relationship with the vaccine.”

      The incidence rate of appendicitis in the general U.S. population is around 1.1 per 1,000 people, so if the vaccine doubles the risk that’d increase to about 2.2 per 1,000 people who take the vaccine.

      (The placebo and vaccine groups were almost identical in size, with a size variation of less than 1%.)

      If anyone wants to check the data it’s available here:

  10. “You may want to think about what you just wrote and what it implies for the older vaxxed. There is an implication you are apparently unaware of.”

    I never claimed that vaccination with god knows what is harmless and it would make sense that it is less effective and more dangerous for older people. I’m just explaining why younger people have more side effects from vaccination than older people.

    1. Thanks for the clarification. Yet, if we follow this line of thought further, it seems to indicate that the supposed cure is worse than the disease. Side effects from the vaxx are quite common, particularly among non-adults, and some of those reactions we have not seen among people who contracted Covid.

    2. As far as i have read, the chances of serious side effects from vaccination are about one order of magnitude less than from covid itself, but it’s not well studied at this moment and couldn’t be, because too little time has passed. I’m sure that lots of reports of new and exciting long term implications of vaccination will emerge in a few years.

      So if you have an expected life expectancy of less than ten years, vaccination may be a good idea. If you are relatively young and covid isn’t much of a danger anyway, vaccination is plain stupid. Too bad that travel will probably be contingent on vaccination in the future.

    3. I’m highly doubtful of such data as government have been shown time and again to be liars. For the longest time, anybody who died with Covid had been counted as having died of Covid, for instance. It is pure fear-mongering. Furthermore, it is safe to assume that side-effects of the vaxx are underreported as these are not politically opportune. Nonetheless, the vaxx is already the deadliest vaccination in existence. VAERS reports already about 1,500 deaths as a direct consequence of the vaxx. The real number is most likely a large multiple of that. Also, the number of people who have died of Covid without preexisting conditions is extremely small. Yet, the vaxx kills the young and healthy.

    4. Different governments report very differently. For instance, Sweden are experts at downplaying both the dangers of covid and the vaccine (the mental gymnastics are incomprehensible to me), while Norway seems to be pretty honest in reporting both. But of course, this is more of a gut feeling and impossible to verify.

      But having seen people die of covid (I work in the public health system in a non-medical position), I can confidently say that this is most emphatically NOT the way you want to go. If you are relatively young and healthy, chances of dying of covid are very slim and the dangers of vaccinations are simply non-quantifiable at this time. If you are old and sick and your chance of dying of covid in percent is in low double digits, it’s probably better to take the vaccine and have a chance of dying in the low double digits.

    5. Are you aware that I have first-hand experience from Sweden? Nobody is “downplaying” Covid here. Politicians are just a little less panicky. I also know a few medical professionals that have nothing but disdain for the b.s. that is going on. You don’t need to take my word for it, though, as there are plenty of renegade voices out there that do not toe the party line. Covid is a non-issue if you are young and healthy. Sure, if you are old and frail, you are at an increased risk, but if you are in that group, you can die of anything. It makes absolutely no sense that we lock up the young and healthy.

    6. Yes, I’m aware, but so do I. For the first 10 months or so, covid was very downplayed, but the party line changed around New Year. Nowadays, Sweden has a pretty average attitude towards covid. But comparing reports from Socialstyrelsen (Sweden) and Folkehelseinstituttet (Norway) is enlightening, to say the least.

      I have never claimed that locking people in, young or otherwise, is a good idea, but the fact remains that covid is dangerous to some groups and suffocating over the course of a few weeks seems like a very suboptimal way to die to me.

    7. Protecting 0.1% of the population at the cost of making life hell for the remaining 99.9% strikes me as a rather dubious approach, and so is the concomitant destruction of the economy. Also the high-risk group very often died with Covid, not of Covid.

      Furthermore, the “response” to the plandemic entailed a massive wealth transfer to the billionaire class. I put “response” in quotation marks as all of this has been planned out in advance, as various white papers prove, so it was not really a genuine reaction to any preceding action. Instead, the elites essentially follows a script they had written in advance. Look up the Johns Hopkins scenario document, if you are not familiar with it yet.

    8. I completely agree with your second paragraph, but also, no politician wants to waste a good crisis. For instance, Denmark has now implemented ‘corona passes’, which you need to go to the hairdresser or even restaurants. Isn’t that a great way to teach the populace that they now need government permission to scratch their asses?

      As for your first paragraph, I have personally seen dozens of patients (mostly older ones, but a few young ones as well) gasping for breath for weeks, while suffering progressive organ failure due to hypoxia. Not a pretty sight. So some measures to contain covid seem reasonable, but locking everything down is, of course, plain stupid. But I’m sure that there are plenty of secondary benefits for the elites, which is why restrictions are implemented the way they are. I’ll look into the John Hopkins document, it’s always interesting to know what our masters have planned out for us.

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