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Seemingly Only Slightly Above Average Men and Women are Much Rarer than You May Think

There are a few catchy phrases that summarize what women want, e.g. a man with six-pack abs who is six feet tall and has a six-inch dick. The reason a six-inch dick is mentioned here is not that it’s so staggeringly big but simply that it goes with the theme. Likewise, six feet is tall but not extraordinarily so. It’s roughly in the top 20 %.

What is more interesting, though, is that a long wishlist of attributes, even if they are by itself not extremely uncommon to have, can add up to a combination that is virtually unobtainable. Let’s use a simple example and assume that you can categorize all women based on two binary attributes: weight and beauty. They are slender or overweight as well as unattractive or attractive. We assume that both variables are uniformly distributed and not correlated, even though this is not the case in reality. You’ll say to yourself that you want a slim girlfriend. This alone cuts out 50% of women. On top, you want her to be good-looking. This cuts the size of your dating pool down to 25%. You only wanted to attributes, and somehow, three-quarters of women are now excluded.

The same works for women, too. Let’s just use the six-feet, six-inch dick, six-pack example, with numbers I’m (mostly) pulling out of thin air. To make it a bit more realistic, I don’t assume that the variables are fully independent. We know that only about 18% of men are at least six feet tall. That’s right, Tinder Jane has already eliminated 82% of men! She also wants a reasonably big dick, but nothing unrealistic, so six inch are fine for her. As penis size and height are positively correlated, we’ll assume that 80% of men who are at least six feet tall have a dick that big. Let’s do the math: 0.18 * .8 = .144, i.e. 14.4%. Her dating pool is getting smaller. Six-pack abs are not all that common, but we’ll generously assume that 30% of men that are at least six feet tall and endowed with a six-inch pecker have them. Look at what we get now: .144 * .3 = .0432, i.e. 4.32%! Tinder Jane thinks she is not picky at all, yet she already disqualified more than 95% of all men.

In reality, some women have a rather long shopping list for what they desire in a man. A six-figure income would be great, too, and a nice chiseled jaw line would be great to look at. How about great hair or a full beard? The list gets bigger and bigger and before you know it, the percentage of men who fulfill all those criteria is a fraction of a percent. I am not at all kidding. Just do the math! With a list of ten items, the percentage of men that fulfill all of them is effectively zero percent.

For the other sex, the math works out the same way. Despite claims to the contrary, numbers don’t discriminate based on biological sex. So, let’s assume that Tinder Joe has more modest demands. He wants a woman who is at least in the middle in terms of intelligence, height, weight, and attractiveness. If you assume that those variables are independent, his dating pool is now .5 * .5 * .5 * .5 = .0625, i.e. 6.25%. If your desired attributes are a bit more exotic and, for example, you’d like to marry a 20-year old attractive debt-free virgin without tattoos, you may as well give up. You could as well look for a porn starlet with a lay count below 10 who is 20 years old and has written a Ph.D. thesis on Kant. The latter cannot exist and the former are so rare that they may as well not exist either.

The important point of this exercise is, however, that even if you are not looking for extremes, you’ll end up with a drastically reduced dating pool. Sure, Jane Tinder may think that a six-inch dick is only a bit above average but still OK, and it’s also fine if his physique is only a bit above average, and his salary should likewise only be a bit above average. Yet, what women in her position ignore is that a string of demands that are, by itself, not outlandish by any means, will exclude an extremely large number of men. Women on the lookout for a man may even say that they are “not even asking for all that much” and genuinely believe that this is the case. Yet, in reality they are looking for men who are incredibly rare.


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53 thoughts on “Seemingly Only Slightly Above Average Men and Women are Much Rarer than You May Think

  1. The following is not a joke, it’s an actual message posted on a craigslist-type site, which proves your point.

    “About me:
    – Black and BBW (Curves in all the right spots)
    – BBC or BWC lover 10inch and up
    -Loves being a pillow princess
    -Enjoys a good drink with the right guy
    – Good energy and vibes only
    – Enjoys watching people play RPG and story mode video games
    – I desire to only desire to be intimate with a man who has his own thing going for him

    About You:
    – 10″ or more will settle for 9.5 lol
    – Own Car
    – Own Place
    – Career
    – Good Energy
    – Positive Vibes
    – Good Laughs
    – A plus if you are really good at video games too

    P.S. Why is it so hard to find a man who has his own, with a big D , and his mind set straight .”

    1. 10 fucking inches? i didnt even see guys on reddit claims 10 inches the highest i saw is 9 inch claims.
      i dont think i saw 10 inches even in porn.

  2. while i am not really putting a doubt on a rarity of a guy with all the list.
    i am just thinking dick size should be upgraded because it is like the only criteria i meet from all those 6 shit.
    and i was turned down before cause of dick size.

    1. How did that happen? When she’s playing with your dick in your bedroom, it should be a done deal.

    2. I have heard stories (told by females) of guys being turned down after undressing, but these were exceedingly rare. It involved real outliers in terms of size, either too small, o exceedingly large.

      One time it was a guy who had such a small dick the girl could not find it. I found it hard to believe, but judging by internet photos some guys really are that unfortunate. This time he was unfortunate enough that he got a real bitch who laughed him off and walked out. Other girls have been more understanding and offered to go on, after all he can still finger or lick her to orgasm.

      Another story I heard recently was from a friend of a friend, she took a guy to bed who was so well endowed that he simply could not fit it in her without causing her pain. this second scenario I heard more often.

    3. Yes, being too big can happen but in that case you should get a bj out of it regardless or at the very least a handjob. There is probably no girl out there who does not like playing with a big dick.

    4. on dating apps i have girls who ghosted me after i told them my size or my height.
      i had both.
      on face to face i dont but i have a zero return for more rate.

    5. Girls asking for your height makes sense. However, some of those interactions were likely independent of your replies, i.e. girls just having fun online and being princesses who never had any intention to meet up with most of the guys they’ve been messaging with anyway. You have to consider that women love getting attention online.

      I never had a girl directly ask me for my dick size, but in real life women made statements like, “You’ve got a big dick, right?”, but those were quite rare. I’d say that women are quite tuned in to the fact that height and dick size correlate positively because if you’re taller, normally everything is bigger. Tall men also have bigger noses, feet, or hands than shorter men.

    6. Aaron, good point about attention whores online. Remember MySpace? It was FULL of that shit. Thirsty guy after thirsty guy drooling over these bitches. The fact that it never materialised for 99.99999999 percent of these guys is the reason MySpace melted down IMO. The dudes caught on. Then these bitches used the avenue of online dating to meet their narcissistic desires.

    7. MySpace was actually pretty good as a dating platform. I met women through it in both London and Berlin. There was a feature where you could see which users looked at your profile and if a cute chick checked you out repeatedly, you only had to message her and could normally easily get a date.

  3. Yeah, this is such a great point in general. People don’t get this addition effect intuitively.

    They assume if something is only slighly above average, then having a combination of slighly-aboverage traits isn’t that special… but it is quite special.

    Now, the flip coin of this (how it’s useful for guys), is that it provides a good strategy on how to become a special commodity.

    Intuitively, guys are drawn to minmaxing strategies. That’s where you invest everything in ONE thing, and you try to become a one-percenter in one thing. Like get into top 1% of earnings or top 1% of guitar players… hoping to get laid from that.

    However, it’s much easier, and better (for many reasons) to become a ten-percenter in five different things. Which also makes you a one-percenter (overall).

    1. However, it’s much easier

      Intuitively it doesn’t sound right, how is getting good at five things easier than getting very good at one thing?

      Answer: Diminishing returns

      A great example is something like maintaining a low bodyfat. If you get to 13% bodyfat you get most of the benefits of having 9% bodyfat… however, effort-wise, they’re NOT EVEN close.

      It’s not slightly more effort to get to and maintain 9% bodyfat year round. It’s something like 100 times (10,000%) more effort). The same is true for most things you will ever engage in.

      And here’s the thing, if you obsessed with having that chiseled sixpack year round, instead of merely a “blurred sixpack”… you won’t have any mental energy, willpower or time leftover to make progress on anything else in life. You’ll be a dude who’s got a chiseled sixpack and is average at absolutely everything else.

      This is generally true any time you adopt such a minmaxing strategy.

      *-exception are rare genetics. For some guys 8% bodyfat is only as much effort as 13% bodyfat for most people… same exception might exist in other fields (talent), which is why this can work out for some people. They can focus on getting to top 1% in a given field and still have energy, time, power leftover to work on other fields as well.

    2. and better (for many reasons) to become a ten-percenter in five different things. Which also makes you a one-percenter (overall).

      The reason it’s better is something else guys don’t get. When people go for a minmaxing strategy, they’re motivated by looking at someone who gets a lot of adoration, fame and money for being at the top of a field.

      What they don’t get however is that these benefits don’t start at the 1% level… they start at something like the 0.001% level. So a guy will watch famous musicians get all those benefits and spend his entire life getting to the 1% – only to find none of those benefits he dreamed of, and he wasted his life (when he could have been developing other things).

      However, being in the top 10% of musicians, while also having a 10% body, now that’s a combo that’s gonna get you laid quite a bit. Yet it’s easier to get than just being top 1% musician or being just top 1% body.

    3. As someone who is a 1% in terms of playing the guitar (classical Spanish guitar), it didn’t really help a lot to play the guitar. Sure you get social status, people want to hear you play and you get admiration and shit.

      But in terms of women? Yes, I lost my virginity because of it and got another woman but at the end of the day, it’s about your looks and everything else. It’s just an enhancer. If you are unattractive, short, and asocial (a lot of musicians have Asperger like behavior) you will go nowhere. You can study for 10 years, but then chad comes along who learned 3 chords and 2 songs in 5 weeks and you are done.

      Talent just draws attention to you, nothing more. And a piece of crap stays a piece of crap no matter how much attention it gets. Never learn stuff for women ever, do it for your own interest. The only exception may be money and lifestyle, but even then the limiting factor will be your appearance. An ugly guy with talent is like a great car without an engine – they will look at it, but no one will buy it.

    4. As someone who is a 1% in terms of playing the guitar (classical Spanish guitar), it didn’t really help a lot to play the guitar.

      Just for the sake of clarity, I’m not sure if you’re confirming what I said, or disputing it with this example?

      – What I’m saying is that being 1% (very good) in one thing will get you very little in benefits over just being good (10%), in fact you might not even see a difference. You only start seeing a difference at the 0.001% level

    5. Looks is only the beginning. Just because a girl looks at you and get horny doesn’t mean she will instantly sleep with him.

      Spend times on gathering other qualities as well. I find Sleazy’s blog give people the impression that looks and only looks count. Just go read Assanova’s blog, I think it is more balanced and offer more nuances that are not mentioned here.

      Looks is what get you through the door, what’s next is up to you.

      And don’t compare yourself to 0.01% of hyperattractive male. No matter how hard you try to improve, you will never get that kind of success like them, just like you will never run as fast as Usain Bolt, compose music as majestically beautiful as Mozart, or write poems as beautiful as Shakespeare or Marlowe.

      But as long as every hopeful man can get some girls, I don’t think they will complain. Only when they get no women will they ever complain that looks is their issues.

    6. @Cuong Quoc Vu

      I think you’re missing the larger context when you complain about how this blog is “not nuanced enough about looks”.

      You have to understand that the overall context is a society overly having pushed the pendulum into the “looks don’t matter” bullshit extreme.

      This blog is merely pushing the pendulum back.

    7. The other thing I feel you’re missing is the distinction between looks and good looks.

      What do I mean by to that?

      Well when we say looks we don’t always mean good looking, but people often misread it that way.

      Fact: In order to bang girl, you must have the looks

      If you misread the sentence above as “you must be a male model, that’s your issue”.

      It would be more accurate to read it as “she has to be PHYSICALLY ATTRACTED TO YOU AS A PHYSICAL BEING”

      You could be an average guy and have a chick physically attracted to your looks… it’s not often but it happens.

      And no, you can’t create physical attraction through what you say or do.

    8. If a chick bangs you without being physically attracted to you, thats called prostitution. Doesnt matter if you hand her cash or not. If the sex is transactional, it’s prostitution.

      If a chick is banging you for a reason other than your looks, it’s because she’s doing it in exchange for something.

    9. “Looks is only the beginning”

      That cliche statement is just as bad as “looks don’t matter”.

      It wold be more accurate to say looks is there in the beginning, the middle and the finish line. It’s always a factor.

      It’s not just the beginning. That’s such bullshit.

      Get a cute girl, gain 50 pounds and see if she still is just as horny about banging you.

      The only time looks are just the beginning is when a chick looks for a provider and you need to meet a minimum treshold of looks which you pass at the beginning.

      But in that case that bare minimum is set based on her not being repulsed during transactional sex.

      If looks were only a factor in the beginning, it means you were being auditioned for a transactional sex arrangement.

    10. “The only time looks are just the beginning is when a chick looks for a provider and you need to meet a minimum treshold of looks which you pass at the beginning.”

      This is what I mean looks is just the beginning. For one night stand or flings, looks are everything. But then many guys even fail to be an eligible boyfriends, no looks, no cars, no nothing.

      “The other thing I feel you’re missing is the distinction between looks and good looks.”

      I have something to ask you. On seductionmyth, it was established that people mate assortively. The most conspicuous indicator is their facial similarity.

      I have observed that this is true in real life. But is this the ultimate algorithm of human mating, reduced to mathematical precision? Is there a chance, even the slightest, for a girl to mate with a guy without facial similarity?

      Also is it a viable strategy to internalize your facial characteristics and learn to spot girls who have similar facial features?

    11. “The only time looks are just the beginning is when a chick looks for a provider and you need to meet a minimum treshold of looks which you pass at the beginning.

      But in that case that bare minimum is set based on her not being repulsed during transactional sex.

      If looks were only a factor in the beginning, it means you were being auditioned for a transactional sex arrangement.”

      Does it work this way?

      If you are her type and a 10 = she fucks your brain out. Do all the dirty things that she will never do with her boyfriend.

      If you are a 7 = she fucks you moderately well.

      If you are a 5 = boring sex

      Also, it seems that transactional sex sucks to the core compared to lustful sex.

    12. “You have to understand that the overall context is a society overly having pushed the pendulum into the “looks don’t matter” bullshit extreme.”

      In this climate, I think we can afford tone down our messages and include more nuances. Heck, you guys are so successful at pushing back that there is a whole community called red-pill springs up.

    13. “You have to understand that the overall context is a society overly having pushed the pendulum into the “looks don’t matter” bullshit extreme.”

      It is almost a cliche, and an excuse, to perpetually let the pendulum swing towards the other directions, when one can easily set it to the centre. I don’t find it fair to excuse yourself of delivering extremely one-sided assessment without considering the significance of nuances.

      Take, for example, the topic of male unfaithfulness. No words on this have been written by the author. Had he made more articles on this, the sudden view of women as being perpetually unfaithful shall change immediately.

    14. I’m not saying that women are “perpetually unfaithful”. There are also enormous cultural differences. Divorce rates in the West vs China, for instance, reflect this nicely. This is based on the assumption that in any given society, divorce and infidelity are highly correlated.

    15. There are 2 problems:

      1) I dont have equivalent sexual experience, thus no whatsoever authority to speak on seduction

      2) There are blogs that already do this, see Assanova.

      Your tone sounds depressively defensive. What is the cause of it?

    16. @Alek Novy

      Also, why do you remain silent still on the topic of assortive mating? Is it an absolute certainty that your facial features must match that of a girl for you two to be a couple? Is there any chance for a girl to sleep with a guy whose facial structures do not resemble her?

      Enlighten me on this one!

    17. Nice excuse. So you’re qualified enough to authoritatively say how a blogger should do his job, but not qualified enough to do it yourself because you don’t have the requisite experience?

      You don’t see the contradiction there? Might I suggest that same lack of experience is the same one which disqualifies you from knowing what is the right way to present a subject? And you might not be qualified to tell Aaron how much to talk about something?

    18. Also, why do you remain silent still on the topic of assortive mating? Is it an absolute certainty that your facial features must match that of a girl for you two to be a couple? Is there any chance for a girl to sleep with a guy whose facial structures do not resemble her?

      Enlighten me on this one!

      Because I have employees to feed you fucking retard. Have you noticed this pandemic where big corporations are going out of business?

      The goverment has me in a prison where I am NOT ALLOWED to work or make income, yet have to pay salaries, rent, and so much more, just trying to survive over here.

      I come here to blow-off steam and I rant shit out that’s fun for me, I don’t owe you shit just because you asked. I could answer, but I’d have to freshen up on the subject to say anything worthwile.

      How fucking entitled can you get? What the fuck is with this “why are you staying silent” just because you fucking asked a question? Who are you, the fucking queen of england? Where are you getting this arrogance from?

    19. “Nice excuse. So you’re qualified enough to authoritatively say how a blogger should do his job, but not qualified enough to do it yourself because you don’t have the requisite experience?

      You don’t see the contradiction there? Might I suggest that same lack of experience is the same one which disqualifies you from knowing what is the right way to present a subject? And you might not be qualified to tell Aaron how much to talk about something?”

      What excuse? I state frankly that I don’t have enough sexual experience to write on this subject, that’s not an excuse, but a valid reason to not write a blog.

      You seem to have that kind of attitude when someone comes up with a suggestion or an opinion. It’s up to Sleazy to direct the course and style of his blog, that’s none of my business. But I have the right to state what is right to my perception, or even frankly point out what is the unpleasant characteristic of his blog. I offend nobody and insult nobody, that’s called the right of speech. You got that you pathetic clown piece of shit, donkey-asshole piece of trash?

      I have used another author, Assanova, who enjoy equally the authority to speak on this subject as example of covering areas that Sleazy choose not to.

      My case rests persuasive.

    20. I’d say you’ve been liberally using insults in your last few comments. They are only online because I was AFK for a few days. Again, consider your tone.

    21. “Because I have employees to feed you fucking retard. Have you noticed this pandemic where big corporations are going out of business?

      The goverment has me in a prison where I am NOT ALLOWED to work or make income, yet have to pay salaries, rent, and so much more, just trying to survive over here.

      I come here to blow-off steam and I rant shit out that’s fun for me, I don’t owe you shit just because you asked. I could answer, but I’d have to freshen up on the subject to say anything worthwile.

      How fucking entitled can you get? What the fuck is with this “why are you staying silent” just because you fucking asked a question? Who are you, the fucking queen of england? Where are you getting this arrogance from?”

      You fucking monkey-brained idiot, who dare to call me a retard. Who are you to insult me that way, you fucking genuine piece of shit.

      All you have to do is to calmly present your case and we are good to go. Afterall, I am under no delusion to think that you are obliged to answer my question.

      What you call “arrogance” is what I call persistence to get the answer that I wish. Up here on this blog, I have the right ask any question I wish, while you have the right to remain silent as you please.

      We are simply net-citizens, no more no less.

      Who give you the right to insult me out of nowhere, you fucked-in-the-head retard?

    22. “Nice excuse. So you’re qualified enough to authoritatively say how a blogger should do his job, but not qualified enough to do it yourself because you don’t have the requisite experience?”

      Listen you fool, I can say what I want, remark on what I please, and question what I find unbalanced. It is not your business to tell me what to do, nor lecture me on how I should do, nor insult me for what I do.

      I have read different comments that remark the so-called “negativity” of his blog. He constantly writes about the infidelity of women, yet completely ignore the fact that men are just as promiscuous, if not more. I don’t simply make a statement, I come up with a proof. So either shut your fucking mouth up and fuck off, or stay quiet as I am making my own remark.

      You got that you fucking monkey asshole?

    23. Maybe calm down a little bit. In this blog I’m addressing topics that I consider relevant for a heterosexual male audience but those are also topics I find personally interesting to write about. This is not some kind of a paid job in which I’m working towards hitting certain KPIs. It’s a hobby project, so I write about whatever I feel like writing about. I even started a second blog in order to have an outlet for other topics that interest me. I did that in ordet to not dilute the message of this blog because guys who want to get their dicks wet may or may not be interested in my political views.

      If you think I don’t cover certain topics enough, or not at all, you are welcome to elaborate on that in a comment. You can of course also start your own blog and write about topics you find interesting.

    24. “The other thing I feel you’re missing is the distinction between looks and good looks.

      What do I mean by to that?

      Well when we say looks we don’t always mean good looking, but people often misread it that way.

      Fact: In order to bang girl, you must have the looks

      If you misread the sentence above as “you must be a male model, that’s your issue”.”

      This same thing is misunderstood by so many readers, including noobies like me. Think of the recent phenomenon Lisbon. The guy get potential for being successful, but is drowned in negativity and alcoholism. There are even more products like LMSFacepalm which send the most depressing messages to men.

      You think this is a healthy direction to go to? Why is there such a huge emphasis on looks, including the thickness of your neck to every inch and centimetre of your skulls? And most of these features are frankly not alterable.

      Assanova comes up with more balanced view:

      https://realmademen.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/the-genetic-phenomenon/

      He didn’t say looks are only a small part of it. Clearly here, he says that one night stand is the domain of genetic gifted man.

      Yet in other posts of his old and current blog, he states that personality and confidence matters (Sleazy didn’t say it didn’t matter, he wrote this clearly on page 7 of Minimal Game, but it is “sexual confidence”).

      Thus garnering dates is just as essential as one night stands.

      These messages are not emphasized on Sleazy’s blog. To excuse this, you said it was because society pushed the opposite message (and may I add that women push this bullshit as well). Yet Assanova emphasize on other things:

      http://moneymademen.com/game-is-won-on-the-margins/

      The silence on these nuances send a deeply depressive message to men.

      That’s my point!

    25. “I’d say you’ve been liberally using insults in your last few comments. They are only online because I was AFK for a few days. Again, consider your tone.”

      Why do you issue a warning to me only, and not to Alek Novy? The starting point is that I view him respectfully as a seasoned member and wish to ask his opinion. He flips and turns into a jerk and call me this and that, as well as cursing in his comment.

      All these are reflected in his comments.

      My philosophy online is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

    26. This guy, Alek Novy, has shown that he consistently use insults as a way to bully those who do not agree with his argument. Silence only helps to add a sense of triumph to his ragged tongue. Let my colorful insults remind him that no act of unkindness can go unpunished. Next time, he should choose his words wisely, or I will unleash even more hurtful insults into his ears, which I have plenty in my arsenal.

  4. @CQV

    You are better off formulating your own strategy and testing it out in real life than trying to harmonize everything that Sleazy, Novy, and Assanova have ever written.

    1. That’s not my original intention. My intention is to ask guy to look at other aspects. This high excessive emphasis on looks and its binary options only wreck guys havoc. “You either look great and get laid, or look average and die.”

      It’s just that simple.

      Read this, for example:

      http://moneymademen.com/becoming-chad-is-within-reach/

      I am not saying by maximizing all your potentials, you can topple a real male model. I am saying that if you stop worrying too much about your looks, you will get enough women to make you happy.

      I was a little depressed upon discovering this blog. 5’9, average face, average body, highly intelligent, yet forever will I be damned to a life of sexlessness. No more, here are options that I have learnt from this very same blog:

      – Paid escorts
      – Improve my physique
      – Get just a couple of cool girls to please myself, and that’s it.

      This ground-breaking article of Assanova:

      http://moneymademen.com/the-end-game-isnt-chad/

      Forever convinces me that time spending on chasing skirts is a waste of time. You will regret later. There are more important things to do than just banging damaged girls.

    2. He is clearly a keyboard warrior trapped in his mind with little real-life experience, also lost and in search of a positive male figure in his life to follow

    3. I have a father that I wish to follow, thus I am in no ways lost.

      I am different from you, I am not a cheerleader of Sleazy, though I am grateful for his wisdoms posted here.

    4. “You are better off formulating your own strategy and testing it out in real life than trying to harmonize everything that Sleazy, Novy, and Assanova have ever written.”

      My original point is clear and straightforward. Assanova covers other shades that Sleazy don’t, and messages that state that Looks are the most important factor that affect women, to the point of FaceLMS videos are destructive to men, as seen in the case of Lisbon.

  5. Mind this whole 6 feet bullshit comes from the states. 6 feet in America is already the top 10% and 6-inch dick is top 13% (looked both numbers up). Also, 6 pack will be hard to find in the country with the biggest people on earth. It’s funny that in Germany we have our “einsachtzig” standard, although we germans are taller than Americans.

    6-figure earners are even harder to find. It’s 2% of the population in Germany, around 55 is the average age. Most of them are married and have 2 children. 15% are female. Now guess how many of those guys are below the age of 40? And 6 ft, and good looking and 6 inches? Most of them live in expensive cities like Frankfurt, so gone is your buying power. The numbers are even worse with millionaires.

    95% percent of all those millionaires have less than 5 million, most have only about 1-2M. That’s a nice retirement of 5k a month without work if you have that much in stocks, but not a luxury life. Ergo far away from Ferrari or McMansion…

    It’s a real-life fairytale that was fabricated by liars on social media. Oh and one little detail that I missed: most women that are married to those rich guys married them when they were broke. There was this book researching millionaires and as I recall a staggering 50% were married to their high school sweethearts.

    1. All good points. The six-figure number is not that relevant for Europe, though. It’s a distinctly US-American metric. I have heard women in Germany bandying around that any guy worthy of dating seriously should make “at least 5,000 EUR/month”, which is a pretty solid pre-tax income in most of the country. It’s far above the median.

    2. Yes, even 5k€ a month is already top 10% in Germany for a single guy. And again, most people that earn this money are over 40 and married with 2 kids (statistically). The chances to get a guy like that when he already makes this money is very slim because most of them are off the market way before they started to make that kind of money. Finding and marrying prince charming is a stupid idea because most of those guys are MADE over years, not found on dating apps LOL

    1. Try those dating portals too, like Parship! I got a good chuckle out of the first link you posted.

    2. @Sleazy

      I could try via VPN / TOR-network. They banned my ass indefinitely… but wait… I forgot the Elitepartner-Forum xD

      I also posted it on med1, but nut sure if moderation will permit my post…

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