We talked about clothing standards in tech before. In short, there are none. Most men just do not care enough and if you are below a VP-level position you probably do not even interact much with people outside of your company, so it does not seem all that relevant if you wear a T-shirt to work, just like everybody else, or put on something fancier like a polo shirt or even a dress shirt. This is the male perspective on this problem. However, I have noticed that women in tech, who normally do not get hired because of their tech skills, have chosen a different approach.
A while ago I sat in a meeting with about half a dozen guys, all dressed plainly if not borderline slovenly, and one woman. The woman was at a comparable level in the company, but she somehow thought she had to wear a pantsuit. I think that these look ridiculous, in particular on women who are not in a decent shape. Unlike with a suit for guys, a pantsuits does not make an unshapely woman look better, simply because men have wider shoulders than women and their bodies build up fat in the stomach region and not so much in their thighs. In contrast, fat women in a pantsuit look like pears, so I consider this style of clothing a self-own.
As I spent more attention on how women in tech dress, I kept noticing that they seem to spend a lot more money on clothes than men, regardless of hierarchy level or age. The younger ones perhaps thought that designer clothes make them look better, and help them attract wealthy men, whereas the older ones likely not only wear expensive clothes but sometimes put on jewelry that does not seem to be cheap, and walk around with handbags that probably cost a solid four figures. Of course, these women are looking for even wealthier men. Men do not care about this kind of female status signalling and all, and would much rather hang out with a cute girl in a plain dress instead of some girl-boss who feels the need to wave her Gucci purse in their face every ten minutes.
Seeing how women behave in tech is a great illustration of how different the sexes are. A cynic would point out that women walking around in expensive clothes and fancy accessories are the perfect metaphor of our time: they work less and their entire existence is basically subsidized by the men in the organization. Thus, there is little difference between some woman living off welfare, getting paid by the taxpayer, i.e. men, and women working in tech who spend their days on “vibing” with their besties and doing Yoga on corporate time. There is a wealth transfer happening in both cases. In the first case, the government is the intermediary, but tech companies are more efficient than government as they simply cut out the middle man. Expensive clothes on women working in tech stand for an intra-corporate wealth transfer. Alas, I am not a cynic so I would never say anything so rude.
“Pantsuit” is inherently, and rightly, a term of derision. Like many other women’s fashions, I suspect they were invented by gay men who hate women, or women who hate other women and want to sabotage them.
“Men do not care about this kind of female status signalling and all, and would much rather hang out with a cute girl in a plain dress instead of some girl-boss who feels the need to wave her Gucci purse in their face every ten minutes.”
I once worked with an Indian guy who referred to some superficial (probably female-driven) rebranding of the company as “putting an old wh-re in a new dress.” Those Indians do have some wise sayings.
Regarding the last paragraph, men have always subsidized women, the problem is that now 99% of men are getting considerably less than nothing in return. Such a society is built on quicksand and collapse is inevitable.
Heels Up is asked how she is going to pay for her economic policy proposals of price controls (yes, really) and housing subsidies for illegal aliens (ditto). As a columnist put it:
“Someone who drops the economic term ‘return on investment’ four times in a freshly-tossed word salad is someone who is signaling to you that they have no idea what return on investment is or how it’s used as a barometer of whether to spend money in the first place. She also takes almost a full minute to come back to the question that was asked – how are you going to pay for it. Her answer is, “It pays for itself.” We currently have over $34 trillion dollars’ worth of ideas that haven’t quite paid for themselves.”
I think that difference between the sexes is across the board in all industries tbh.
And it don’t think it’s mainly about looking good for the high status or wealthy men at all per se. Women compete w other women in the office with clothes. Any decent looking chick will have a ‘nemesis’ chick (THAT bitch) at the same company and will dress to compete with her nemesis for who’s hotter. The attention from men is just part of that game they play. Sometimes one will fuck a dude just to one-up her nemesis and cause drama (if she can) .
Having worked in a few female dominated office spaces the competition with clothes is very obvious .then also there’s the bitching, gossip and general dramatics between groups of chicks. Basically all that high school social dynamics still playing out in the professional world cos chicks be bitches.
I like pencil skirts myself 😏
I see there is some debate going on between chicks re these
https://www.quora.com/Should-pencil-skirts-be-considered-appropriate-for-women-to-wear-to-work
They are ‘appropriate’ it seems but women be well aware of the effect they have on da men.
My UK mate works as a merch planner for a big retail company. Hes a bit of a shy lad and struggles to keep his eyes in his head with all the hot young female buyers there dressed like this. I can only imagine. He also tells me the drama level is off the charts between them all.
“Pencil skirts” are misnomer. This name only makes sense if these skirts are worn by slender women with long legs. The same skirt on a fat woman is obviously not a pencil skirt but perhaps a “street-drawing-chalk skirt” (look up how thick these pieces of chalk are!). Also, women who are in shape look good in almost anything, so the question is more about whether young, sexually attractive women are too distracting in the workplace.