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Yet another win for feminism: one of the female agents of the Secret Service cowered behind Trump instead of jumping in front of him in order to take a bulle:
https://x.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1812549461283119505
Other presidents hide behind female SS agents.
Female SS agents hide behind Trump.
On a more serious note, that historic photo wouldn’t have been possible with a hulking male agent in front of him. Nor would I criticize the gal he had in front of him instead. She put herself between him and potential flying bullets, which is more than I’ve done.
This is a very good point. With one or two buff SS agents in the picture, Trump would not nearly look as majestic. The stars had to align for a shot like this to happen.
Forced diversity in gaming is really working out for BlackRock: Hellblade 2 did not even manage to enter the top 100 (!) in the month of its release [1] and Concord, the latest pozzed slop from Sony, sits at around 50 concurrent players right now [2], down from about 1,000 three days ago, when the beta was released.
[1] https://www.gamesindustry.biz/price-hike-shows-xbox-is-determined-to-make-game-pass-work-opinion
[2] https://steamdb.info/app/3011460/charts/
If you think this is good then wait to see how the new Ass Creed game fairs. I hear Japan is in an uproar about the historically revised gay BBC samurai protagonist.
Back to the discussion as to whether daughters are better than sons, just remembered this episode from “Malcolm in the Middle”:
https://youtu.be/gRBdaqPGf-U
You be the judge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bfzQhs0Jyw
In short,if you are unable to inspire (I was going to use the term “command”,but its not all about fear. You can have kids that fear you,but will cross you behind your back given the chance because they do not respect you. Obviously,that’s not the scenario we want either.) genuine respect in people,either scenario will result in a hell on earth for you.
Malcom in the Middle is some of the worst normie crap on the Internet. What exactly is your argument?
@Maou
There are four types of fathers (the fourth one being the right one which is rare), according to Aaron Clarey, author of “Bachelor Pad Economics”:
https://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-four-types-of-modern-american.html
Simply practicing safe sex won’t solve the bigger problems in Western society, since it’s already being overrun by those that don’t.
@Aaron “Sleazy” Elias
The fact that daughters are a sunk cost that will neither pass on the family name nor competently help keep things running is enough stress for the man raising them to endure to the point of abusing drugs, alcohol, and junk food as depicted by Hal.
@Small Wonder
Clarey speaks of “four kinds of American fathers”. This is hardly the only categorization one could come up with>
Your view on daughters is completely bizarre. Did it not occur to you that women have it easier than men in society? For a woman to do reasonably well in live, she only has to avoid doing certain things. Achieving success, on the other hand, is much more difficult. Also, in Western culture, unlike in Indian culture, the family name does not have a lot of weight, as we have pointed out to you before. If you have daughters, you will most likely be able to hand them over to their future husband to take care of them by the time they are 25 or so. In contrast, your sons will struggle to establish themselves in their chosen career at that point. Also, your offspring carry half your genes, regardless of their sex.
Hey Aaron!
Just wanted to give some feedback on my recent use of minimal game in online dating.
I’ve been going hard these past few months on ‘hookup’ type apps. After many, many dead ends and after an exchange I let go 250 messages (!) long that fizzled m out , I realised my foolish ways and switched to a super direct MG style , both in my Bio and when starting chats.
Now I’m getting much better reactions and Y/N’s off the bat . Saving me heaps of time and go nowhere interactions. Thanks! 😀
I need advice though, after the initial green light from chicks who are DTF …I still move into bantering and teasing for possibly a bit too long in a show of personality .
Is that unnecessary and should I drop that bit altogether?
Thanks again. CJ
Some of you may be surprised to see James again. He promised to behave better, so I am giving him another chance.
Welcome back, James!
You need to meet up with women, not banter with them online. If they are DTF you better move on to the F-part because if you don’t, somebody else will. She will also rapidly lose interest if she gives you the green light, yet you hem and haw.
Thanks for the reply Aaron .
Will take onboard 👍
I’m experimenting with giving them my contact details (mobile no & snapchat) ) pretty quickly after a strong response that looks like a green DTF and leaving the ball in their court to hit me up when they are horny/ have time to fuck. This does not seem to be working though. I still need to move them toward from my side hey.
I’ll re-read Online Game this week cheers
Handing out your contact details and waiting for them to respond does not work. They want you to lead the interaction.
Thanks Aaron.
Yep ! 0 / 5 follow ups from that approach.
The competition for access on this particular ‘hookup/swinger app’ (RedHotPie) is also way more than I imagined. Like 100x more.
Also could someone pls point me towards a thread that has your agreed definition of an ‘Alpha’ vs. a ‘Chad’ ? I’m still sketch on that. Thanks CJ
I’ve been experimenting a lot with my pics also. Trying different personas, but not much change in results so far. I’m currently going for ‘Chad-douchbag’ or ‘good looking, shady loser’.
2 head pics in hoodie + cap, sticking out my bearded jaw w a cheeky grin (eyes blacked out)
1 body shot w naked upper torso looking toned.
1 pic of just my hair looking thick and dark.
1 Full length shot inside a club, dressed smart w a hot, big titted chick (heads blurred)
My theory is this bad boy kinda image should appeal to those chicks looking for a straight dirty fuck asap and I’ll match their stereotype.
Fingers crossed! 😀
Here’s an update on my OD experience 4 weeks in- May be of interest to you fella this “data” below.
So as I said prev this app RHP is a swinger/fuck app. Most of the chick profiles are headless body shots in sexy poses and in sexy underwear/ lingerie etc.
So I’m in a chat this pretty average curvy chick with lingerie shots on her profile . I’d hit her up w a message, she replies “not my type sorry” I reply “ no worries at all , thanks for letting me know , I get it it’s all down to looks anyway hey!” or some such. I go ahead and ask her for some feedback on my profile anyway ,to help me out 😉
She Replies “ yes looks are important but also look what I have to deal with” and sends me a Screenshot of her ‘conversations’ tab from the app.
This is the data copied and pasted from that screenshot;
Inbox (4880)
Inbox
Matching (3888)
Conversations from matching members.
Unread (2134)
Messages you haven’t read
Unreplied (3509)
Messages you haven’t replied to.
Sent messages (20)
Messages you sent but haven’t received a reply.
Private folders
Qld guys (0)
Ignored (0)
Conversations you have chosen to ignore
And she’s very very average body, curvy w a bit of fat. And late 30s in age if I recall.
Unreal.
Don’t be too discouraged by that. She probably gets a flood of messages from Pajeet and Dhruv who are on a never-ending quest for white “bobs and vagene”. Given her age, the best she can hope for is a quick pump-and-dump.
> Just wanted to give some feedback on my recent use of minimal game in online dating.
https://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2020/04/14/out-now-ebook-online-game-the-no-nonsense-guide-to-getting-girls-on-dating-sites-and-apps/
Wouldn’t have this been more suitable for your purpose?
But as you can see for yourself,this is a big part of the reason the folks here don’t really recommend the online platform for casual dating unless you have truly top tier looks. You can’t really blame women for adopting a “shopping mentality” in the platform. You don’t exactly have time to “get to know” 4800 duds,so you have to sort through them quickly. I wonder how many candidates you eliminate here just by filtering anyone who doesn’t breach the 6ft barrier?
> And she’s very very average body, curvy w a bit of fat. And late 30s in age if I recall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGDCOEa23Z0
“Just look in the mirror and lower your standards,brah!” 🤡
Thanks Maou.
Got Sleazys book .read half 6 months ago when starting to dip back in. I defo agree now with his advice re OD being just a ‘supplement’ to dating and to spend 5 mins here and there swiping etc on it.
Esp. Now after seeing this average chicks inbox!
Some more info from chatting to said chick below re my assertion to her ‘it’s all Looks anyway hey’ etc
“Alot of women here who are into swinging
still require an intellectual connection. The
couples are often more into the quick hook
ups rather than single women.“
And
“ Smoking hot dude isn’t always good in bed.
So I’d prefer the connection”
So not only do they want good looks, they also want a decent back and forth chat to establish ‘connection’. ( I cbf doing this)
I guess this may explain in the PWF video why Chad guy is only getting 28% hard “Yes” to his offer of ‘wanna smash’.
28% is still not great for a guy as good looking as that profile pic he used in the experiment tbh.
Ps I am now using ‘wanna smash’ as my opener I may as well… my chances are that slim either way lol.
What she says about couples may well be true.
I got a hook up with a couple 6 months ago. It was all very quick. Quick chat, quick phonecall straight to their house same night and smash.
She was quite hot also. Prob better than I could get one on one these days. I think I’ll focus on frisky couples now tbh better chances and hotter chicks for me 😛
No judgement guys !
Married women are the easiest to get with,probably because most of them understand the deal (many will definitely still try to trade you in for her husband however,doesn’t matter to them that they already have kids. and we have enough suckers to fall for it.),but do I really want to potentially reinvite the complicated problem of violence into my life just for that? I recognize that I’m fortunate (and I don’t like using that word when talking about what I went through in our disgrace of a school system) that none of my past skirmishes resulted in a long term vendetta.
Not only is violence past school a lot more complicated to deal with,but the “fucking around with other men’s wives” definitely falls under the kind of stuff you can do that can definitely invite intense conflict in your life than you bargained for.
You do what you will though. Be careful.
Maou- I think you misunderstood what I meant.
Not a married woman . A married couple.
ie a MFM 3-way. I fucked a hot wife with her husband. That was off another app but it’s a more the hippie Kink/Swingers/ENM crowd.
Everyone’s orientation is pansexual, demisexual , two-spirit blah blah etc. 🙄
I wouldn’t touch a ‘discreet affair’ type deal with a married woman ever. way too risky agreed.
Here’s my stats from 3 weeks using RHP – I’ve hit up 152 chicks & couples. 32 replies convos ensued. 0 fucks .
I’m having better luck on Bumble now having paid $5 for unlimited likes for 24hrs.
Chicks seem to be particularly wary of my filtered /blurred pics and being Cat-fished by an older guy posing as a younger . (Me) they really are harping on for unfiltered pics. How hypocritical! Almost all the pics on Bumble the girls look like supermodels from the excessive filters & touch ups. Lol.
And here’s my opening text ( I cobbled this together from texts off chicks)
“Heyyy 👋
How are you
Ur bio was interesting to me.
Where are u based and what are you looking for”
It’s working quite well and forcing them quickly into a narrow frame ie -In/Out for me 👍
Further updates on my Online Dating Experienxes… because of the data I’m getting from chicks and the odds being so low I’ve dropped almost everything off my profile including decent pics and the big Bio I had written about all the ways I was wonderful.
My pics are now deliberately shit to show I don’t give a fuck. My main profile pic is now me in big thick glasses looking like Buffalo Bill from Silence Of The Lambs… and my Bio is a one liner only – “ Put the fucking lotion in the basket” (lol)
2nd pic is a headshot with beach behind very grainy/filtered and the 3rd is a body shot of me on holiday in a nice classy cafe leaning on a table looking normal cute/cool .. but with my eyes blurred out.
And in my chats I’m going straight to very hard bantering/teasing/negging/tooling /disqualifying with a I couldn’t be bothered attitude. I think this may be more effective.
Quite amazing that chicks now hit me up on Bumble with “ LOL at your Bio ..I love that movie !!!” I will confess these chicks are of no better quality than the ones before so yes all looks. But at least with this “ I could care less approach” they believe I am higher value and will probably pursue me to fuck me haha.
Ps have I gone off the deep end / am I autist?lol
This is an interim experiment btw I’m hitting up my photographer mate soon to get some really top notch pics done. I’ll get better quality chicks then I’m sure, but think I’ll stick to this communication approach anyway with them also.
Opinions / dissection please.
Thanks CJ
And yes I will go back and read Sleazys OD book… Im sure it has good strategies also from my skimming. just find books hard to get through. I demand an audio book Sleazy! ( mit deiner tiefen sexy Stimme Ja) 😆 I find AB’S easier to get through as I do a lot of driving for work, just put them on in the car throughout a week etc.
Ps is there any software online (pref free)where I can convert Sleaxys book in amazon format into an audiobook (yknow with that shitty robotic voice)?
Or am I breaching copyright doing that .. Soz Aaron 😳😛
Anyone played Far Cry 5? Just finished it. Really cool experience.
What did you enjoy about it?
I live in a big city. I was able to go ziplining, climbing, hunting, fishing, wingsuiting, parachuting, free falling, be in a forrest, be in mountains. It had memorable villains. Controls felt really smooth after a few hours of playing give or take a couple of things.
Excellent point! This reminds me of a conversation I had many years ago in which someone mocked the popularity of Skyrim by saying that he prefers just going outside and talking a walk in nature. Apparently it did not occur to him that a lot of people live in densely populated cities and may not even own a car, so they can only experience nature as a simulacrum via RPGs.
The way Herkerderker described the game kind of sounds like a mature version of modern Zelda.
@aaronsleazy wrote about DEI in corporate America and especially Silicone Valley.
Apparently, two major corporations are getting rid of DEI.
Microsoft did so recently: https://archive.is/o8NTI
John Deere too: https://archive.is/5bI85
I am happy to see that. DEI was heavily pushed by the Demonrats and now that their ship is sinking, the progressive agenda simply gets decelerated slightly. I also blame ZIRP for this. I have a hunch that industry-wide dismantling of DEI programs will have severe social ramifications. There must be tens of thousands of students in the US whose career goal was to become a six-figure diversity hire. Also, Computer Science programs ballooned and lowered standards so that “diverse”, i.e. less intelligent, students could get a degree. There will probably be an impact on higher education overall, which has been heavily focused around b.s. degrees and churning out social-justice activists.
Trump should make a deepfake video with Humprey Bogart as Captain Queeg reciting this nonsense, then point out that no, it’s not a movie, it’s the guy you (almost) elected to hold the nuclear football.
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/07/17/leaked-zoom-video-shows-joe-biden-mocking-a-combat-veterans-service-during-insanely-deranged-rant-n2176986
“First of all, I think you’re dead wrong on national security,” the president says, the emotion at times garbling his words. “You saw what happened recently in terms of the meeting we had with NATO. I put NATO together. Name me a foreign leader who thinks I’m not the most effective leader in the world on foreign policy. Tell me! Tell me who the hell that is! Tell me who put NATO back together! Tell me who enlarged NATO, tell me who did the Pacific basin! Tell me who did something that you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son—and I’m proud of your leadership, but guess what, what’s happening, we’ve got Korea and Japan working together, I put Aukus together, anyway! … Things are in chaos, and I’m bringing some order to it. And again, find me a world leader who’s an ally of ours who doesn’t think I’m the most respected person they’ve ever—”
What a disgusting fascist cunt. Bans a magazine from the national conservative corner. I read the magazine from time to time. There was nothing “Nazi” or far-right about it.
https://www.dw.com/en/afd-editor-protest-after-germany-bans-far-right-magazine/a-69692133
https://www.nius.de/news/elon-musk-kritisiert-scholz-wegen-compact-verbot-diese-regierung-zertritt-die-meinungsfreiheit-mit-kampfstiefeln/e87985f5-dc54-407b-9fdd-322eb8bd2437
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-bans-right-wing-compact-magazine-searches-properties-four-states-2024-07-16/
https://youtu.be/35R2vUUtmss?si=UJ4yCJRRN7bxnmHJ
The German government is going completely crazy as they realize that their time is up. Opposition politicians regularly get their homes raided and anybody who sympathizes with the AfD runs the risk of getting their bank account shut down. This is fascism.
This shows Scholz’s weakness – his political and intellectual weakness, but above all his weakness of character. Because if he had read Compact magazine or watched Compact TV, he would know how Jürgen Elsässer repeatedly praised Scholz when he threw cudgels between the feet of the war-mongers in his party. Elsässer has repeatedly stood up for Scholz’s line on the Ukraine war and written against Pistorius, who has gone completely mad. Elsässer has appealed to the SPD’s great tradition as a peace party. In the editorial room of his raided house, which also serves as his living room, a large, framed picture of Helmut Schmidt has been seen hanging in several YouTube videos in recent days. To describe Elsässer as a right-wing extremist is ridiculous. He represents partly left-wing, partly right-wing positions, but above all he represents German positions and the position of peace.
I know this is a general feeling but any else observe that nationalists in the clown empire have really started fighting against the clown empire after July 13th? “Muh principles” no longer applies.
My feeling is that what happened at the rally was an accelerationalist’s nightmare. Now it’s pretty much almost guaranteed that we get a big “pressure valve release” presidency. If he’d have went down then a lot of schizo Q-tard Boomers might have revolted. A lot of the JQ awareness that was building will now get wiped out and we can probably look forward to a war with Iran in the name of Israel, or some shit. You can probably look forward to your crypto and stock positions, and just general assets reaching all time highs at least. I imagine it’s a matter of time before the interest rates get squashed back down and the money printers come back on, but that might have happened regardless. It could be a good time to squirrel away some money in preparation for the future.
I think that the world economy has been quite fragile for years. There is still way too much money in the system, even though some of the worst excesses have stopped. A good indicator is big tech. While it is no longer possible to collect ten million from investors based on noting but a string of buzzwords, there are still a lot of companies with valuations in the billions, even publicly listed ones, that have never made a profit. We have too many of these “zombie companies”. To give you some examples, Snapchat is worth $23b, Twilio $10b, Lyft $5b, and Peloton $1b. None of these companies is profitable. Then there are other companies that do make a profit but their valuation is completely out of whack. A rule-of-thumb for investors is that a price/earnings ratio of 20 to 25 is good; this is also in line with real estate valuation multiples (price/rent ratio). Yet, to use one particularly egregious example, Palantir has a P/E ratio of 225.
@Big John
Seems that feeling is there, even on micro scale. For example, “right”-leaning activists are engaging in cancel culture the Left love so much. None of that “turn the other cheek” nonsense.
Also helps that Twitter isn’t as engaged in censorship as in past. For example, Donald Trump has his account back. People can post alternative views and expose the BS the mainstream media peddles. Thx, Elon!
Curious if the rioting in Leeds will waken ppl up to end mass migration. (So far, doubtful…apparently, you’ll still get called a racist if you note that a certain people like to shit on the beach: https://archive.is/JmkEF )
There are more and more stories coming out about immigrant behavior. This is related to the shift of the zeitgeist. It is not clear if we are at the tipping point yet, but if we are going to hit a tipping point, then change may happen quite quickly. More realistically, we will only see the departure of large numbers of immigrants once the Western welfare state has been reduced to a more manageable size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUsbDbrZSJQ (2:35)
What used to be known as the “Getting to know each other” process is now called “Being Sneaky”. 🤣
Seriously speaking though,there’s a right way and a wrong way to go about it. I’d say how Alek talked about it in your old post about min/maxing in dating is the first. You genuinely benefit from their company (“activity partners who happen to be female”),but you don’t throw copious investment at them in hopes of getting them to like you. The bitter dudes who’ve spent months/years being taken advantage of/led on in the friendzone is the wrong way to go about it,and sadly seems to be a lot more common. No doubt of course thanks to decades of previous societal programming that females apparently aren’t as shallow as us.
Huh, I watched the same video and had the same thoughts. But yes, she’s describing social circle game to a T.
Heck, even Michal Sartain who tries to push social circle game as the magic pill that is the best for everyone… even he says “If you’re a male 9 in looks though, you don’t need this shit, you can be direct, hit on them, it’s simple”.
But yes, for most of us the strategy with the biggest ROI is befriending chicks. Friendzone the chick, and let her show interest first, or just move things to where “things just happened”.
I think this is the one thing closest to being “sneaky”. Like what Luke talks about, where you go and hang out and be friendly with 20-30 people, and through attrition you make it so you end up alone with one girl at the end of the night, and it’s like, oh, it’s just so happened we’re alone at 3 am at my place… things just happened, and then you make a move.
It’s women who enforce this by their need to make sure that things “just happened”, because they think it ruins their reputation when a non-chad is openly hitting on them, and they have to pretend to be bothered by it. But once they’re at your place and it just happened, it’s no issue.
This just popped up on youtube for me, bumble experiment how chads can get away with being ultradirect:
Such a plain directness wont work in Vietnam or China. You will be viewed as creep and girls run away from you.
That does not mean a Chad cannot have girls come over to his place instantly. All he has to do is to soften his invitations.
Btw, those messages make me feel scare of Western chicks even more.
Oh pleases, CQV. There’re videos of Chinese chicks throwing themselves at plain Western guys. Quit deluding yourself.
CQV, I wanted to reply the last time you made such absurd claims. Trust me, the average guy in every country believes that about girls in his country. Girls are really good about putting on that act and do it in every country.
The same girl who acts like she doesn’t know what a dick is will have banged some dj in the bathroom stall without even exchanging names. Don’t be so naive.
@Alek Novy,
If you read my comment, I said that Chad could still instantly get Eastern girls, just that his invitation shall scare off girls. He could propose to have a drink, and then lead her to his room later.
There are girls who put up an act, and there are girls who are genuinely confused and scared off. Perhaps you want to talk about the former?
I have never said Vietnamese girls or Chinese girls will absolutely refuse his advance, just his style of delivery.
I have met one 1m90 Kazakh guy who had sex with tons of beautiful and rich Chinese girls, he was never this crass to his girls. Many girls required him to talk to them slowly to accept to come back to his room.
@Picklenanny
Before calling me deluding, I wonder if you have ever visited East Asian and Southeast Asian countries?
I have never said there are no girls who refuse to have sex with Westerners. I said there were many eastern girls who would refuse your advances if you were that crass and direct.
You could find club sluts everywhere, but they were just a segment of our societies.
These girls on youtube that you showed would not be called “hot” by locals.
https://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2020/07/19/sticky-open-thread-79/
Ask yourself this question: Would Sleazy’s Wife agrees to have sex with Sleazy on the first date, after asking her to come over by saying “Wana smash?”
I’m starting to think that CQV thinks that being direct with a woman means, “hello, I would very much enjoy to pull out my throbbing boner right now, bend you over, and use you like a rag doll before pulling out and blasting all over your face.”
You miss my point. Being direct just means exactly “Let’s smash”.
Unless you think “Let’s smash” is not direct enough and must be replaced with the obscene stuffs you just mentioned.
And you know what kind of girls you will get with that line? I don’t need to tell ya.
Don’t distort my point.
PS I didn’t even watch the video of the guy messaging chicks if they want to smash until just a second ago, but I’ve seen one from years ago, for example, where guys will make a fake profile of a hot guy and tell chicks he just got out of prison for molesting a little boy—and they still forgive him!
Anyways, it doesn’t matter that there are lots of high class chicks (or whoever) in any given country that will be offended by an “ultra direct” approach, because like CQV even admits himself there are sluts everywhere that will accept such an invitation. Those are often the chicks you focus on anyway for hookups anyways. Also, there are still videos online of Eastern chicks harassing white guys on the street, and a JBW guy recently put out a video detailing his adventures in Vietnam and Thailand, so the evidence is out there without me having to go there myself and conduct thorough analysis. I could easily ask you CQV if you have ever been a jacked 6’ 4” Chad, then how would you know that the ultra direct approach doesn’t work, huh?
https://youtu.be/EEUtP9CzguU?si=nrimUq0qSILN02yC
CQV, you’re just bullshitting and backtracking now. In a previous comment you said girls in your country would never be so forward as to kino a guy or come close to him, to where the boobs are brushing. Don’t pretend you were only talking about “let’s smash”, and nothing else.
You’ve consistently shown that you don’t know what chicks do with chads, and somehow believe if you haven’t seen it, that it doesn’t happen… and then assign said thing to “other countries, not mine”
Guys with no experience in every country believe girls “don’t do stuff like that”, and yet the girls in their country do. Unless you’ve been a chad or best friends with a chad, this is something which is completely off limits to you. In other words, even if you lived in the sluttiest country in the world you would not witness these behaviors unless you were a chad or best friends with one.
I am indeed more inexperienced than you, but I am not backtracked.
As I said, I know only Chad, he never told me about this stuff.
I have had girls hovering to me, even using her arse to sandwich me with another guy. No, I don’t have these experiences as common as Chads, but they happened to me once (the ass) and many times (the hovering). The ass comes from a chick who was already experienced.
I dare to say that sexually aggressive girls like you mentioned are already experienced and are not that common in my country. If you go to clubs, that may occur.
As handsome and buff as the guy on the video, he will get tons of phone numbers, Zalo numbers and facebook in daytime. But if he opens them like that, he is gonna scare them away.
Read my comment again:
I don’t need to pretend anything. It was you who blondly accused me of sth I have never said. You said nothing of kinoing and boobing so I just assumed you talked about texting girls on dating apps like in the video. I was responding to just that.
I have talked to one 6’2-6’3 guy. He was the best I have come across. His advice is to get to know really well the girls first.
And he hangs out with chicks whose you Westerners have no access to. Think of long legged very beautiful Chinese models (google them, they appear constantly on my face feed). I have seen those girls, they could not leave their eyes from him. A combination of looks and social charm works well for him.
And the more I interact with girls in Vietnam, the more I believe him.
This is in-line with Assanova old posts as well.
@Picklenanny,
I laugh my arse off watching the video you posted. It seems you can’t even tell the difference between Vietnam and Thailand. I have no experience with Thai girls so I will shut up.
I haven’t watched the video in a few weeks but I thought he talked about his experience first in Vietnam and then Thailand.
It is mostly Thailand.
I don’t think we are disagreeing over anything.
I have just said that the male model would get laid a ton and even date very hot Vietnamese girls if he tones down a bit.
Heck, he would get girls a thousand times hotter than those he tries to be coarse with.
I feel like if a chick is really modest or wants a boyfriend and doesn’t want to risk ruining her reputation she will begrudgingly turn down 9/10 whose only intention is to smash and dash. But then also some of those long-legged model tier Chinese girls will accept a sum of cash from some guy in Dubai to shit on them, so.
If that is what you think, ok then!
That was in a different thread where you randomly took the opportunity to comment on chicks brushing against me to say “girls in my country would never do that”. Bro, you seem obsessed with telling yourself that, you use every opportunity to do so.
I’m responding more to your overall naivety and obsession with believing that “girls in my country don’t treat chads differently”. Again, this is true in every country:
– Girls can literally pull out, do, or accept things that are 1000x more forward and porn-like with a chad
– You don’t have access to these experiences and don’t even have a way of witnessing them. You can’t actually make these claims
Thanks for your input. Alek Novy
I don’t want to go any further with this discussion.
I will take your words seriously.
Ok I will try condense my thoughts on this one.
Taking the full quote – “unattractive guys have to be more slow about it , they have to be more nonchalant and more ‘ sneaky’ about hitting on a girl”
Hoe_math pulled out “sneaky” out of that quote used it out of full context for his hoe-bashing imo but anyway I digress 😛
Ok so translation of above quote as far as I understand women:
Women have a fast feeling in X seconds if they would fuck a guy.
So it’s a Y/N in seconds .
Or else it’s a maybe/could bang/depends
So if it’s an “unattractive (not pretty guy) and he goes into the Maybe-Bang category for whatever reason – what she is saying is – “don’t go direct” /“don’t move fast”
Why?
Cos If you’re an ‘unattractive guy’ in the MaybeBang category , by going direct you push her into a Y/N decision fast .And it’s going to be a N . Cos you just ain’t pretty enough.
Plus She will think you’re a dumbass cos you didn’t get it.
Get what? Get the social mating game. Get how women are. Get that IF there were no ‘pretty guys’ around or available, if you’d played it slow, nonchalant and ‘sneaky’ and could maintain this Maybe -bang feeling ,she may well have sucked YOUR dick at the end of the night instead cos she was horny and you were acceptable enough.
This above ^^^ is why it’s important to have the core skill of communicating *Indirectly*with women in social settings. This is a very old “skill” guys and for good reason! Learn it!
You can play it slow and nonchalant . You can hit on other chicks( low key of course), you can circle back and check-in with her “hey am I still a maybe-bang lol/ hey so how you doing picking up Hot Dudes tonite lol/ wink wink ..etc .
If she sees you “working the room” with other girls this may well be good. You get the social mating game . You’re smart. That’s attractive to women also. They may tease you about it. Happy days ‘Playa’ 🙂
Don’t be a dumbass and go direct if you are not a “pretty guy”. Soz. If you do, she will also lose any respect for you and any thoughts of a Maybe-Bang cos you’re not socially savvy. You just demonstrated to her you’re a dumbass and you don’t get what’s going on with women. You’re a Hard N then.
Minimal Game / Direct Game is for the good looking imo
Beauty rules guys. Yes . 100%. A Chad can say anything (!) pretty much. Haha he’s so funny! cos he’s so sexy just standing there looking hot. He can grunt. No matter. They don’t give a fuck what he’s saying anyway they aren’t listening that hard. Probably cos they’re busy thinking about sucking his pretty cock and then taking it many different ways whilst regarding Pretty Boy’s hot looks until they cum hard.
Beauty rules for attraction and procreation. It’s the way of the world.
Shit.Im still working on this art of condensing lol not much improvement. Is there any good books on it.
Alek – I think u are failing to appreciate that girls in CQV country live in a much more conservative society are are therefore much more conservative socially playing the mating game *with their own kind*. Those societies are still more traditional and conservative moreso than the West imo . This opinion from my own experience in SE Asia watching and talking to them about it also.
CQV – don’t be ‘scare’ of Western girls.
Come to the West and get laid in your first month of weekends out drinking. Ps I’m assuming you are acceptable looking 🙂
Also I will add , I fucked quite a few Viet girls whilst travelling there . Mainly meeting them in big bars such as ‘Apocalypse Now’ in Saigon/HCMC. Wild times them days 😛
Soz CQV , I came to your country and had your women 🙂 Viet Girls are HOT! I want to go back
🙁
Pickernanny – what u said about the Dubai thing was classic 😀
That is all for tonite from CJ down under. Hope to get some replies 😀
Yeah, it’s kind of funny how pendulums work. Since indirect was tied with cheesy routines, direct won out, and now the trend is everybody is pushing direct, when in truth, “socially calibrated indirect” is what works best for anyone who’s not a male model. And I say this as someone who got all my lays doing direct.
It’s popular because it’s simple, “makes you feel like a man”, and doesn’t require advanced social calibration, it’s the “shortcut”. However anyone who gets laid a ton in real life is indirect and calibrated. They play well within women’s frame of wanting things to “just happen”.
Basically women for the most part want to get you “engineer” things happening in a way where her plausible deniability is fully satisfied. They only make exceptions if you’re a chad, famous or for some reason she has a fetish for a guy just like you, or something similar.
> Basically women for the most part want to get you “engineer” things happening in a way where her plausible deniability is fully satisfied.
I remember a discussion around here about how women will often rationalize to themselves about their attraction to certain guys. That its not all about physical attraction,but that they somehow “saw” (or felt a “vibe”)something deeper in the guy and that’s apparently what hooked them in.
In fictional works,its common for main characters to fall in love after a series of dramatic events that pull them together,even if they didn’t start out with mutual attraction. Is all this “social engineering” they want us to concoct partially caused by a desire to have a “story” behind their romance? I have a feeling that’s a real factor. women do love drama.
I guess in the end,all this comes down to not wanting to be perceived as shallow and a slut,not even by themselves hence the rationalizations. And a desire for there to be some sort of deep story behind them getting together like what you see in a movie. “Oh,I met Bob in a ping pong club I used to go to and I thought he was kinda (not Chad) cute. He asked me out and now here we are together” just doesn’t cut it for them I guess.
Lol yeah exactly.
Alek – did we just agree?! :O
I just fell off my chair 🙂
Yes. Direct speak is the shortcut for Pretty Boys.Coz % odds are good, so why waste time right?
To me it’s simply – ‘Direct is the language of men. Indirect is the language of women’: but direct speak is not social savvy/ sophisticated imo.
Indirect speak
If a guy approaches a chick/ group of and has good indirect he’s communicating to chicks “ I speak your language/I’m socially savvy” it’s a very good first impression if he’s not that attractive looks wise.
That’s why I’ve always advocated for Banter as its indirect and can be learned and improved.
Chicks will try hard NOT to use direct language. Ever. It only usually comes out in a heated argument when they lose their cool.
For unattractive guys a good reason to hang out with chicks /groups of is to listen and watch how they communicate and take notes imo. Even if none of them wanna Bang ya. “Know your enemy” maybe.
I’m hoping I don’t sound like Zan Perrion now lol. ( who used to be a very Pretty Boy IRL btw he coulda just been direct is the irony of him)
For the younger guys – there are still some good old resources in PUA-land from the early days.(for real)
Checkout ‘Brent Smith’ – especially his interviews with ‘Cliff’ from Clifflist on YT.
This guy Brent is a 10/10 in looks , uses Banter exclusively , and doesn’t bother with any women who aren’t chasing HIM. Not vice-versa. Rock solid ‘alpha’ mindset.
Just don’t buy his courses he is still a salesman.
But tbh maybe Brent should read Sleazys book haha he’s a 10 after all.
Some other things re ‘ seduction ‘ I’m experimenting with atm . These are “weaknesses” of ALL women btw .
1. All Women are naturally Nurturers & Carers.
2. ‘Vulnerability is Sexy’
If you want to be *really* “ Sneaky” use these angles in your game.
Oh and one more phrase that’s always back of my mind re the ‘weaknesses’ of women to be played upon when ‘Gaming’
“ curiousity killed the cat”
Ie -Some/ most women just can’t help themselves to find out information, sometimes all the way to copping a dick just to get answers. 😀
I’m trying these 3 angles in my online game now and getting some better results.
Re Bumble experiment video.
There is 2 key things missing imo for reach useful conclusions from the results.
1. Was the selection of girls random / what was the quality of the sample.
2. What was the quality of the girls who replied a hard ‘Y/N/M’. Ie were the ‘Y’ girls unattractive relative to Chad.
Also those pics are a bit too ‘unreal’ and chicks aren’t completely stupid. (Hence the reply ‘are you even real?’ From one chick).
Him saying ‘wanna smash” is not really congruent to his pics either.
PWF should re-do and *not*use a GQ type clean-Chad.
Instead use Chad-Badboy/ Chad-Douchebag for much better results.
E.g. use pics of tattooed Scotty F. In his prime.
The Bad Boy Chad is the ultimate archetype to women for quick sex, not GQ Chad.
He appeals to a much wider demographic (he’s more dangerous and exciting) especially when they are really horny and criteria for selection of a dude “ a top shelf, hard hot fuck with NSA”
A Scotty-type will trump that Chad type hands down. I would expect more than 28% will jump on that guy off the bat w the ‘wanna smash’ offer..
Now they want to ban AfD: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/afd-was-fuer-die-einstufung-der-partei-als-extremistische-bestrebung-spricht-19864814.html
Julian Reichelt (“Achtung, Reichelt!”) interviews Jordan Peterson: https://www.youtube.com/@AchtungReichelt/community
I don’t think too highly of Reichelt. Some months ago I came across a few of his videos on Telegram and it seemed that he patterned his speech after Tucker Carlson, i.e. simple grammar, simple vocabulary, appeal to emotions, basically identical prosody. The similarities were baffling.
I agree with you. Reichelt doesn’t come across as natural and tries far too hard to imitate other media “professionals”. Moreover, Reichelt himself looks like a schoolboy next to a worm like Peterson.