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Do you have to be a male 7 or above to pull girls with Stelar method?
Does Stelar method work as stated on the forum post One Night Stands?
Being a 7 may be pushing it. You are probably aware that the difference between flirting and sexual harassment is based on how attractive she thinks you are.
More so than anything, stelar method needs you to be able to identify horny & available girls from a distance.
Two things and for one, if she’s horny & available, it doesn’t really matter as long as you are above average. For the other thing, most girls are horny if they meet a hot guy above a 7 on the scale.
One great way to be a male 7 or above is to be independently wealthy. I don’t mean fake money but really independently wealthy. Girls generally think that they should fuck rich guys FAST to get them in the bag. So you shouldn’t have a problem fucking and also keeping girls for some time on call. Until you leave her, of course. Wealth is the great equalizer even still.
As for looks, that is one place I disagree with Aaron Sleazy. He said that being wealthy is more difficult than losing weight on Minimal Game. There is nothing stopping you from doing both but, there is a natural genetic limit to how good looking you can get.
It’s not about wealth but flaunting it. Heck, you could be in dire straits financially, but live it up like a baller you’ll have pussy coming your way. The frugal millionaire next door (check out the book with that title by Stanley and Danko), on the other hand, blends in.
If you equate being wealthy with being a 1%-er, then it is certainly much more difficult to be wealthy than slim. Look around you: even in an obese country there are more than 1% of peopole who are slim.
That’s the one area I disagree with Aaron. He, like many other naturally skinny people projects that weightloss is as easy for everyone as it is for him.
The fact is there are genetic differences in satiety, appetite, etc… Yes, we will all weigh the same if we eat the same amount of calories (given the same height and activity levels). But we’re not the same in the ease with which you can achieve that.
For me making money is WAAAAAAAAAY easier than losing weight. Like 100x easier.
I’ve been able to achieve top 1% result in a dozen different areas. Guess what? Losing weight and keeping it off (just losing down to not fat) is way harder than all of those areas combined… again, than achieving top 1% in those other areas… COMBINED.
Just to be clear, so I don’t give off the wrong impression. I am not currently in the top 1% in a dozen different areas.
What I have done for most of those is achieve top 1%, then moved on. It requires maintenance. Like if you get to top 1% in monthly income with a business, but then decide money isn’t as important and you let the business die (which is what I did). I currently barely bay the bills. Zero disposable income. But I also work 2 hours a week 🙂 So you might say in terms of earnings per hour I am in top 5% still.
Anytime I’ve gotten to top 1% monthly earnings (for where I live, the standards are low), it’s taken me a couple of months. Losing weight down to a lean (blurred sixpack) levels took me 3 years of suffering and having to give up on every other area of life COMPLETELY. Doesn’t matter I have as much knowledge on the subject as it takes to complete like 5 PhDs.
Same with most areas I tried my hand in. I achieved top 10% to top 1% results in breakneck record speeds compared to everyone else. Ain’t blessed in the weightloss area.
I want to add one more thing than what Alek and myself already said. What Aaron said about being a male 7 will be stretching it is not to be taken as a cue to not approach. You have to risk being creepy in order to play the numbers game. You have to play the numbers game in order to get laid. Thus by the law of transitivity you have to risk being creepy in oder to get laid consistently by horny available girls who are hot.
As for what Aaron said about sexual harassment, let’s hope that most women in clubs and bars are able to understand that they are there to get approached or at least that they are in an environment that is conducive for men to approach them. Which is normally the case. Despite what feminism may have you believe. This is true at least in Asia where I live. Since, most feminists are not hot, it’s not much of a problem anyway. Because you won’t be approaching them.
In essence, a woman may call sexual harassment even if you haven’t ever met her in todays’ femsplaining climate. So, it’s best to take a voice recorder and approach girls using any method than to not approach women in fear of being creepy or being called out for sexual harassment or rape. Better yet, have your friends film your approach in those field videos style. Just an idea.
Meanwhile, nothing is stoping you from getting more fit, wealthy and becoming more famous.
@Aaron, While it maybe possible for more than 1% of people in an obese country to be slim, it may not mean that the fat can have it easy in getting slim. Since most people want to be slim, it shows how difficult it is to archive slimness.
As for money, you can live fast for far less than you think. By live fast I don’t mean to get bottle service and share it among four people. But I mean to hire a few low skilled body guards, (fat guys, lol) a car, bottle service and etc won’t cost much. But if all you have is 3000 in debt, that may seem like a bit of a stretch.
As for the frugal millionaire, all he is frugal. I don’t think any sane person with money (stressing on “with money”) would want to be frugal unless you listen to Dave “the ass” Ramsey.
And? As Don pointed out that fact is completely unrelated to whether getting slim is easy for someone who isn’t.
The main issue is that naturally slim people PROJECT their own experiences and assume that weightloss is the same for everyone as them.
— I only get fat if i’m superlazy and superlame… therefore anyone fat is superlazy and lame ==> That’s projection
Typical example is the genetically lucky naturally slim guy saying stuff like:
“Just clean up your diet, add a little cardio everyday, bam, your slim”…
No… that’s HIM/HER. Studies are VERY VERY clear that different people respond differently to such factors.
For example person A gets on a certain kind of a diet let’s say “a clean diet” and automagically ends up eating the right amount of calories that gets them to a slim weight. They don’t even have to fucking calories… just “cleaning up the diet” handles 30 other factors.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE A TINY TINY TINY MINORITY. But for some reason, many of them want to project that every human on earth works the same way. It doesn’t.
In studies this is known as responders vs non-responders. For some reason responders believe that everyone on planet earth would respond the same way.
Typical example is the genetically lucky naturally slim guy saying stuff like:
“Just clean up your diet, add a little cardio everyday, bam, your slim”…
No… that’s HIM/HER. Studies are VERY VERY clear that different people respond differently to such factors.
For example person A gets on a certain kind of a diet let’s say “a clean diet” and automagically ends up eating the right amount of calories that gets them to a slim weight. They don’t even have to fucking calories… just “cleaning up the diet” handles 30 other factors.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE A TINY TINY TINY MINORITY. But for some reason, many of them want to project that every human on earth works the same way. It doesn’t.
In studies this is known as responders vs non-responders. For some reason responders believe that everyone on planet earth would respond the same way.
Taking the exact example from above? The less fortunate will try the exact same way of eating and get a much smaller response.
For the naturally overweight, eating ad libitum
– If he eats unclean he ends up eating 3200 calories a day
– If he eats clean he ends up eating 2800 calories a day
Result: goes from superduper fat, to super fat.
For the naturally skinny, eating ad libitum
– If he eats unclean he ends up eating 2200 calories a day
– If he eats clean he ends up eating 1800 calories a day
Result: He goes from having being normal weight to having a sixpack… Then he gets the conclusion as such… HEY all you have to do in order to have a sixpack is to eat clean… TADAM 🙂 Easy 🙂 And this is true for anyone on the planet. That’s all it takes, for anyone on the planet.
Hey Alek, you seem to be amiliar with nutrition related literature, so I’d like to ask if you have read Nina Teicholz’s The Big Fat Surprise, and if so whats your opinion about it.
I didnt read it yet, I,ve seen her interview with Joe Rogan and she struck me as someone who had done her homework and knew what she was talking about.
You debunked PUA Industry and all con artists.
Why you don’t debunk fitness, supplements, self help and diets industry and get rich quick scams like thai lopez.
I’ve talked a bit about those areas before. It’s nothing I want to dedicate a significant amount of time to, though.
Scam like 30 days water fasting to lose fat and detox your body to get glowing skin.
And that is despite the fact that they may not exactly be a “looker” themselves…
How buff is buff enough? I am 5’9″ and weigh 60 kg – with upward tendency. I assume that somewhere between 70kg and 75kg would be more appropriate?
btw.: I’ve had masked hyperthyroidism for many years, so as a result I couldn’t gain any weight… O_o
IQ is largely a pseudoscientific swindle says Nassim Nicholas Taleb. What do you guys think of this article and Taleb in particular:
https://medium.com/incerto/iq-is-largely-a-pseudoscientific-swindle-f131c101ba39
I remember Aaron had some poignant opinions about “Black Swan” and Taleb, so it could be the case that an article devoted to him is on its way. I like the guy, however faulty some of his opinions could be. He usually pisses off the right people.
Taleb made money three times, the most he made in 08/09 during the GFC. You know how? He had insight into BofAML’s mortgage book and saw the smelly shit they’d been pushing. It doesn’t take much education after that. When Rela Estate markets go down, they drag along everything else. Even some shitty long term put options on the S&P500 would’ve done the trick. No need for an ISDA and other exotic OTC shit.
My point? He made money off on insider knowledge. It’s not like you could see the mortgage book of a major player, just like that.
Regarding his books, he wrote I think four or five and each one of them could’ve been summarized in a 3-4 page paper. That “Fooled by randomness” thing is nothing but “you need a large sample size to be sure to actually have an edge in the markets and you need to have a stop loss”. So how about sample size, when you made money in 1987, in 2001 and in 2008/09? Stop loss he had, as buying options has a limited downside.
His Antifragility essentially is “decentralize as much as possible, encourage errors on small scale and give Incentives for people to have skin in the game.” That’s all.
He just loves to hear himself talk.
This article is nonsense. IQ is a valid concept because it is confirmed by reality. In highly complex jobs, people with high IQs will perform better. Also, IQs computed for countries seem rather valid. The lower the IQ of its population, the higher that country ranks on the shithole scale.
I was surprised to see this from Taleb. Even though I don’t find him particularly insightful, I didn’t expect him to stoop so low.
Maybe he’s just selling books. I agree he likes to hear himself talk.
He wants to sell something in the future. Its a scam world. Con man World. Everybody wants money.
Law 27: Play on People’s Need to Believe to Create a Cult like Following
“People have an overwhelming desire to believe in something. Become the focal point of such desire by offering them a cause, a new faith to follow. Keep your words vague but full of promise; emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. Give your new disciples rituals to perform, ask them to make sacrifices on your behalf. In the absence of organized religion and grand causes, your new belief system will bring you untold power.” – Robert Greene, 48 Laws of Power
Law 32: Play To Peoples Fantasies
“The truth is often avoided because it is ugly and unpleasant. Never appeal to truth and reality unless you are prepared for the anger that comes from disenchantment. Life is so harsh and distressing that people who can manufacture romance or conjure up fantasy are like oases in the desert: Everyone flocks to them. There is great power in tapping into the fantasies of the masses.” – Robert Greene, 48 Laws of Power
Aaron, you might like this:
(regarding Taleb)
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/swanning-about-fooled-by-algebra/
I lost my 20’s following charlatans advices, i was so naive, sucker. I lost everything, i lost my youth, i have painfull life, they lied to me, i have resentment, i hope all fitness, pua, diet guru die. The internet is full of con artist, the world is full of con man than ever before in history of human kind.
We have scams on sports gambling, stock market, casino, products, diets, pua, fitness, supplements.
The world is a jungle, dog eat dog world.
Alek Novy, regarding your post of January 4, 2019 at 11:17 pm :
What purpose does your post serve besides self-flattery?
Unless the fields you are referring to are something pathetic like collecting postage stamps, you are nowadays competing against the rest of the world in just about any field. To reach the top in this environment requires specialization, and consequently a lot of time. Being the top 1% in any sport makes you a professional athlete. Know of many professional athletes who got there without investing a lot of time? And moved on after turning pro? Besides time it requires talent, and it is unlikely anyone is highly talented in many different facets. So where are you, you handsome entrepreneur, who occasionally performs research at CERN, does some freelance work for Google, cures cancer on the weekend before heading off to win a televised sports match and bang models?
You don’t exist. Just as the guide you promised to write years ago about infiltrating some niche where being a straight man would suffice to score models. Do you think there are extremely successful people that find the need to brag about themselves online anonymously? Given your supposed success, you must have incredible insight. Then why is it that your posts never contain any true applicable content?
Save yourself the effort of a defensive or inflammatory response, I won’t reply unless you post something positive with valuable content. It reflects poorly on this blog that you haven’t been blocked yet.
Several points (almost having to do with a lack of reading comprehension:
– I was very careful and said “in the top 10% to 1%”, not “in the top 1%” for everything
– I was also very careful to point out I’m not at those levels in multiple fields simultaneously (at the same time). THAT IS THEORETICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. There aren’t enough hours in the day to hold an above top 10% position in a dozen field
– We’ve discussed this before, but a lot of people confuse the top 10% and top5% and top 1% for the top 0.001%
Pro athletes are not in the top 1%, they’re in the top 0.01%.
– Do you have any idea how many athletes never make it pro?
– Being top 1% means that you’re one of the top amateurs in a small city
It’s actually relatively easy to get in the top 10% in a field. But if I say I am in the top 10%, top 5% or top 1% of a field, you imagine a top 0.0001% er. Which I’m not.
To illustrate
– The guy playing the guitar in the local band, a band which is semi-famous among a niche in your city only… is probably somewhere between the top top 10% to top 1% of guitar players.
– The guy playing a guitar in front of sold out stadium is in the top 0.00001%
Let me give you an obvious example
If you get Minimal Game (or let’s say even better book some consultations with Aaron) you can get in the top 10% of guys when it comes to women in like 3 months.
If you make it your sole focus those 3 months and that’s your only mission in life. In a year doing consultations with Aaron you could reach top 1%.
Do you find anything shocking about this claim? Do you know HOW LOW the average is? People mistake the top 0.0001% for the top 1% or even the top 10%.
tl;dr
– People often understimate how much work/talent/luck it takes to get in the top 0.001%. It’s impossible for the most part.
– People often OVERESTIMATE how much work/talent/luck it takes to get in the top 10 to top 1%.
And further, when they hear “top 1%” they imagine a top 0.0001% er (a top global celebrity)… When they hear top 5% they imagine a minor global celebrity.
To illustrate the point that you’re performing this conflation, here’s what you wrote.
All of these examples are top 0.00001%. These are not top 1% to top 10%.
Here’s what a mix of top 1% to top 10% might look like:
1) You occasionally teach yoga classes in the second biggest yoga studio in your city (you live in a mid-sized city)
2) You’re applying minimal game after taking a dozen or so consultations with Aaron
3) You have a managerial position in an IT firm
4) You’ve been training in the gym 3 times a week without fucking around
That’s what a mix of top 1% to top 10% looks like.
@Alek
I’d like to add/rephrase:
People in the bottom 90% OVERestimate how hard it is to get to 1%. They think top 1% is top 0.001%.
On the other hand:
People in the top 0.001% UNDERestimate the incredible amount of luck they had in life (genetic lottery) that got them to the top 0.001%. They think top 0.001% is top 1%.
And that, in essence is the big confusion.
To clarify. I mean you can/should get at LEAST these results, at the very least for guys in your looks range. You might do much much better.
In a lot of area though, with concentrated effort, and if you have great specialized help you can achieve top 10% quite quickly. Since most people don’t even try, are completely off the mark in what they try, or they don’t even try anything at all.
Great point Neutral.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/05/phoenix-police-woman-coma-decade-gives-birth-boy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/09/tech/jeff-bezos-wife-divorce/index.html
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/jeff-bezos-already-moved-girlfriend-161955504.html
Lmaoooo did not see this coming. He’s moving on to a fresh piece of hispanic ass, but I guess fresh is not the right word since she’s a 49 yo divorcee. What is this guy thinking? He’s literally splitting his net worth in half twice. Some people just don’t learn the first time. Doesn’t take a Princeton grad to see a bad deal for what it is……
PUA arrested over PUA videos:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46839531
I don’t understand what he’s done that’s illegal. Talking to women?
That’s why guys go mgtow. No save way to interact with women anymore. Just call an escort, fuck a doll or do that stuff outside the Western world. These thots are not worth it.
You can’t alpha the system. And playing the numbers game is just dangerous these days. It’s more likely to get in trouble than getting laid when doing cold approach. Posting any hetrosexual behaviour online is also a bad idea these days. Letting a 10 yo boy dance in drag on the stage in a gay bar is somehow okay? But having an adult hetrosexual man (specially white man) flirting with adult hetrosexual (white) women? What was he thinking? He doesn’t even have nearly enough social victim points to get away with that. Maybe if he identified as a transsexual, transracial lesbian? Maybe? But as a hetrosexual white man you should let your lawyer contact her lawyer first. And only say hello after the lawyers have done all the consent paper work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvcToPZCLI
This bitch thinks the best you can do for climate change is talk about it. I take it back, that’s probably better than any of the things they say we should do.