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  1. Here is another example of Capcom being woke, and in a particularly disrespectful way. The trailer below shows Terry Bogard, a guest character in Street Fighter 6. The character model looks pretty bad but worse is the female character at 0:34. That is a black woman with a particular appearance, i.e. she is a woke version of the blonde bombshell Blue Mary, which is incidentally the canonical love interest of Terry Bogard. Well, Capcom turned her into Black Mary.

  2. After having been found out, Sweet Baby Inc. removed the list of clients from their website. At some point they probably will also ask to be removed from the credits of a game. Once you shine a light on such people they scurry like rats.
    https://archive.ph/fBrxT

    1. The funny part is that they always have DEI tells so that even if they hide you know the game is their handiwork pretty quickly.

    2. More interestingly, there is a self-revealing aspect of subversion. These people cannot operate in the shadows for long because at some point they are no longer content with getting a black or lesbian extra into a TV show. Once they set their sight on a bigger goal, it is completely impossible for them to pretend they are not involved. Amusingly, nowt that Sweet Baby Inc. has removed their client list it is safe to assume that even some projects in which they were not involved in will be tied to them, which will spell commercial disaster and thus accelerate the collapse of the DEI/ESG grifting industry.

    1. This is a pretty decent movie, but the shock humor in it, such as in this scene, makes it a bit unpalatable to me. The depiction of the Karens at that table is great. These women exist in no small number in society, yet they seem to have almost completely disappeared from movies.

    2. Hahaha, the 10:1 ratio of “beeotches” vs. bastards cracked me up! 😀

      The Karens are one thing I don’t miss about the U.S.A. (though ironically, one of the most competent women I ever worked with was an American woman who was literally named Karen).

      Thought I recognized the kid working with Ryan Reynolds – it’s John Francis Daley who played Sam Weir in Freaks and Geeks!

      I wonder how this scene would have played out in real life, by the way. With a waiter looking like Ryan Reynolds, I reckon the Karen would have been more likely to slap his ass than give him a hard time. 🙂

    1. This video made me laugh. It seems that this urban lady has a habit of abusing some pretty serious drugs. On a somewhat related note, the movie RoboCop 2 is set in a “dystopian future” but the kind of society it shows is quaint compared to the current year in the West. In RoboCop 2, the drug ‘nuke’ wreaks havoc in a fictionalized version of Detroit. Yet, this is nothing compared to what ‘tranq’ does in real-world Detroit these days.

  3. The next Sweet Baby Inc. blockbuster release, Unknown 9: Awakening, has about 200 players during launch on Steam:
    https://steamdb.info/app/1477940/
    Note that this game was bundled with a lot of GPUs recently. Not even when given for free do people play this crap. As it turned out, the market for games that feature butt-ugly female protagonist is a lot smaller than commonly believed. This is yet another commercial bust. At the rate this is going, the woketards will consider a game successful if it has more players than developers and if it loses less than $100m.

    1. Excellent news! I hope SBI goes out of business soon. I can’t for the life of me think of any good reasons for anyone to still retain their services. They’ve got the Judas touch; what they touch, dies.

      “At the rate this is going, the woketards will consider a game successful if it has more players than developers”

      Hahaha! 😀

    2. Great comment on NeoGAF: “0.32 Concords and still climbing. Might even skyrocket past half a Concord before the weekend is up. Suck it, incels.” I quite like the idea of measuring high-budget commercial disasters in “Concords”, based on player numbers. Amusingly, Unknown 9 managing to reach Concord numbers would be positive news at this point. Giving this game away for free is also backfiring as there is no shortage of negative reviews on Steam as a consequence. People add this game to Steam not to play it but to write a scathing review.

    3. Hahaha, “Concords” ! I love it! 😀

      Looks like Unknown 9 peaked at 6:15 PM yesterday, when it reached a whopping 276 players. 🙂
      https://steamcharts.com/app/1477940#All

      So far 28 reviews on Steam, 25% positive and 75% negative. My guess is they would have had even more negative ones if Steam didn’t require at least 5 minutes of playtime to write a review.

      Such great results. Totally worth every cent they sunk into developing this game…

    4. There are rumors that this game has sold less than 2,000 copies on Steam. This is entirely believable. It is even possible that total sales are below 1,000. Most certainly, total sales are far below the number of free game codes that were given out. Also, a significant part of the active player base are probably racist streamers who play through this game just to make fun of it.

      More interestingly is that people have gotten so tired of these DEI-infested games that they do not even want to make fun of them anymore. Unknown 9 just gets ignored. In contrast, Concord led to quite some “buzz” online, with people mocking the characters, etc. There is plenty to mock in Unknown 9, too. I find it most unfortunate that Unknown 9 is a commercial bust as I was looking forward to a collaboration involving other franchises. I would have loved to see the ugly chick from Forspoken and her “muhfuggin’ dragon” as well as that disgusting creature from the new Fable game appear in Unknown 9.

    5. Speaking of Concord, Aaron, you might enjoy this skit by Dogen (a Japanese-speaking American living in Japan) about the Concord debacle:

    6. This was an amusing clip. I hope that there will be consequences at Sony for that kind of commercial failure but I have not yet read about any heads rolling.

    1. The ape in Black Myth: Wukong does not count as it is not a black, non-binary female. Perhaps the game would have gotten a pass had it had a character that could have been used for furry porn.

  4. Just finished Dark Souls. Skipped some of the DLC content, just wanted to finish it. I have to say if it weren’t for my shmup buddy or the internet then some of the shit in this game would have just been too cryptic to have ever figured out. I’m talk NES levels of cryptic BS. I should have kept notes. One thing I remember toward the end of my play through was one of the 4 special souls quests you need to offer up to the Lord Vessel to reach the final zone. You basically get to this particular boss by accessing a spiral stair case that eventually ends up leading to nowhere except a black pit. You’re supposed to equip some random ring that you may or may not have by this point and take the plunge to trigger the boss fight. Some NPC hints about the abyss or some shit but really he should have just said equip this specific ring before taking the leap of faith at the bottom of the stairwell. Of course, this isn’t as dramatic, but I recall a mod for The Legend of Zelda 2 for NES where they just made the NPCs tell you how to actually progress instead of whatever nonsense they originally told you.

    1. I was not aware of that but I have read of similarly cryptic parts of the game. Die-hard fans of this series tend to not use the “git gud” argument in such a case but instead come up with some justification for why this is good game design. A friend of mine who is into these games tells me that they are supposed to be played with a guide book or a wiki.

    2. “A friend of mine who is into these games tells me that they are supposed to be played with a guide book or a wiki.”

      Is this explicitly implied by FromSoft or is it just something that people assume, I wonder? I have to seriously doubt that there is anyone who managed to get through this game on their own merits the first time through. That amount of trial and error might take thousands of hours.

      Somewhat related, there is actually some presumably autistic streamer that managed to get through a bunch of souls titles without taking a hit. The challenge got so extreme that if a hit was taken the guy would revert all the way back to Dark Souls 1 and start the challenge over. This even got the attention of Hidetaka Miyazaki: https://youtube.com/shorts/HE20JJavKhQ?si=hWuKLuHHlRZr8ICB

    3. I think that it is only a cope that you should play these games with a guide. However, there is some kind of in-lore justification: you can summon human players, so making use of other human players indirectly, i.e. via the support they provide by writing guides and wikis, is just an extension summoning others in-game. I have come across the claim that Dark Souls games are only hard if you ignore how they are meant to be played, i.e. with others. I think a reasonably good argument can be made that these games are intended to be collaborative efforts. The alternative but seemingly equally valid view is that summons are there if you need them, meaning that you are supposed to beat these games on your own. Yet, if this is too challenging, you can activate “easy mode” by summoning other players.

      That guy must be one of the biggest autists in the history of video gaming. There is another ultra-autistic guy who played the same Super Mario Kart 64 track over and over, hoping that he would trigger a very rare condition that enables an unintended shortcut:

    4. I’ve seen that! I can honestly say I used zero summons during my play through, neither NPC nor human. I even got invaded once toward the end of my run and one hit killed this guy in flaming armor with a flaming sword with a single spell.

    5. Oh, btw, to not seen like I’m trying to sound like a total badass gamer, it’s not that I didn’t try to do NPC summons a couple times. I was definitely having trouble during a couple points and my shmup buddy suggested I use humanity, and then the NPC should have their summon sign down near the fog gate. I tried this on three separate occasions and each time there was no summon sign, so I just said screw it because I was tired of wasting my humanity on nothing when I could at least reliably kindle bonfires with them.

  5. Just realized on Steam’s store page while browsing through games that they removes the ratings for individual games on the front page. You now have to click on the title and scroll down to see the ratings. I hope this gets resolved soon because I regard this as somewhat anti-consumer.

    1. Given how poorly received a lot of recent AAA releases were, this feature is probably here to stay. There is the belief in marketing that if they get some kind of commitment from you, then you are much more likely to buy the product. Say yes, click on a link, scroll down, anything — you now committed to some extent and because you want to be consistent, you may even buy the product. I do not buy this at all. I just get annoyed, which means that I am a lot less likely to buy that product.

    2. “Say yes, click on a link, scroll down, anything — you now committed to some extent”

      Maybe that’s an attempt at replicating the old school sales tactic of getting a customer walking into the store, rather than trying to sell over the phone. Which DOES often work.

      Too bad clicking on a link and visiting a page doesn’t take anywhere near the amount of time and effort it does to dress up and drive all the way to the store.

      But hey, maybe it still works. Remember that we don’t exactly think like average everyday normies. The folks that easily get sucked into trends and suckered by clickbait hype. People with more sophisticated tastes probably aren’t the target market.

    3. I remember old PUA marketing tactics like this where they have a page filled with dozens of paragraphs or a with video essay summarizing the contents of the product. It’d always be something like, “the one secret that will get you any girl…allow me to explain, but before I get to the one secret listen to how much of a loser I used to be.” Of course, the secret was that by the end of the presentation you needed to fork over $497 exactly, which was a $10,000 value being generously and practically given away. I definitely never purchased any of these products because I was too poor. It wasn’t just PUA either, there these exact same marketing formulas applied to body building and a myriad of other things.

    4. “I definitely never purchased any of these products because I was too poor”

      Funny that you mention all that, because after typing my comment, a brand new question came to my mind…What do you guys think of the validity (including from an ethics perspective) of teaching your children (IF you decide to have them) how to pirate effectively from the internet?

      No lie, I think another big part of the reason I eventually stopped easily falling for hypes and marketing is because of someone I met on youtube back in the day (who eventually became my best friend, we don’t talk as much anymore though.) taught me how to effectively wield the dark side of the force.

      I never bought any PUA products. I pirated all of them. I pirated Vin DiCarlo’s guide and RSD’s DVD that I no longer remember the name of, that funny enough, I never watched. Because young me didn’t have the attention to span to bear all that content. (How many DVD’s was it? I think it was almost 10!) Instead, the real first “game instructional” I truly read from start to finish is 60 Years of Challenge’s Game Revision System thanks to Roissy’s (yes, ironic) recommendation.

      Eventually, I found out about Aaron in one of Girlschase’s free articles, was relieved to learn that DiCarlo and RSD are bullshitters (I was not looking forward to consuming those DVD’s. not one bit), started talking on his board, read more of his posts back then and met Alek, and the rest is history.

      Understandably, we all start out young and innocent (nicer way of saying “gullible”). Without having learned to pirate software material, I could have potentially lost worth thousands over the course of my development. Teaching your kid this skill might save them a lot on opportunity costs.

      Steam was about the only thing that convinced me to (mostly) retire my pirate ways. Whoever developed it definitely had the right idea about how we humans are creatures of convenience. Pirating (especially with modern games usually being about 30+ GB) definitely gets inconvenient.

      I’ve also noticed that people these days find themselves paying for subscriptions they don’t even use. and here I am, even though I can actually afford it now, hesitating to get on any online subscriptions because I absolutely don’t want to find myself in that same position. Its probably safe to say that probably at least 50% of the stuff I’ve ever pirated, I never even ended up using, so I definitely know it can happen to me.

      I won’t say Piracy is a nice thing, but it just might be a useful skill to have to help protect yourself from getting scammed. Lots of people for example pirate a game first, and if they like it, THEN the buy the game. Of course, you can argue that probably a good percentage of the folks who claim to do that, aren’t really doing so and are just fooling themselves.

      One important disclaimer however is that I live in the Philippines. while piracy is illegal here, you are very unlikely to ever get into trouble doing it. (dunno about providers though)

      Might be different in the USA.

    5. I remember downloading a bunch of body building and PUA stuff on limewire, but I’ve never fooled with the so-called dark web. All in all, I have to say that probably over 95% of all the informal materials I pirated were actually practical. All of the work out guides were conveniently forgetting to mention how to stack gear effectively, for example. Leading the consumer ro believe that by counting macros, eating six meals a day and following a specific exercise regimen would net you the same results as the author.

      I don’t know that I would want my kid being a chronic internet user like I, and many others, have become.

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