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I came across a most interesting paper titled The Great Male Renunciation: Men’s Dress Reform in Inter-war Britain. You can find it on sci-hub if interested.
Here’s the ChatGPT summary of the paper:
“The article “The Great Male Renunciation: Men’s Dress Reform in Inter-war Britain” explores how men’s fashion became more austere from the late 18th century, focusing on the Men’s Dress Reform Party (MDRP) founded in 1929. The MDRP sought to free men from restrictive clothing norms, advocating for more comfortable, health-conscious, and individualistic attire. The movement was influenced by post-WWI conditions, health concerns, and a reaction against rising feminism. Despite some successes, like legitimizing casualwear, the movement largely failed due to resistance from societal norms and industry interests”
Here’s a quote from the opening paragraph:
“… John Carl Flugel (a psychologist from University College London), contended that since the end of the eighteenth century men had been progressively ignoring brighter, more elaborate, and more varied forms of masculine ornamentation by ‘making their own tailoring the more austere and ascetic of the arts’.
He called this event ‘The Great Masculine Renunciation’, or the occasion when men ‘abandoned their claim to be considered beautiful’ and ‘henceforth aimed at being only useful’. In the face of inter-war feminism and the denigration of masculinity, the professionals who joined the Men’s Dress Reform Party regarded it as their duty to lobby for the aesthetic liberation of men.”
And a few more quotes from later on:
“Men were actually proud, rather than mortified, to find other men wearing identical clothes.”
“Just as men feared that they had become mere accessories to women, so, too, men’s clothing was said to have become simply a foil to women’s clothing… Ironically, they argued, to regain masculine power, men needed to take inspiration from feminism… Men’s dress expressed imprisonment; women’s expressed emancipation.”
It seems the author believes that men are supposed to wear not utilitarian clothes but follow inane fashion, just like women. With the exception of gays and old-school PUAs, men care little about their clothes. Women, on the other hand, often buy clothes they never even wear. I can guess which kind of company would be interested in sponsoring research on the supposed “imprisonment” of men via their comparatively basic clothes.
I took a look at the paper. It’s written by Dr. Joanna Bourke, a self-proclaimed socialist feminist. Pass.
Either way, the goal of the MDRP has already been achieved. Those were the days when all men dressed borderline identical: a full suit and jacket. Even just taking off the jacket and standing around in your shirtsleeves was considered inappropriate, and something hoodlums did.
Look at street photos from the civilized world at the time, and that’s all you’ll see on men. The only exceptions will be those whose work required them to wear other things, like policemen in uniform, or construction workers in their gear.
This lasted into the 1950s or 60s or so. Since that time, the breadth of acceptable clothing for men has consistently broadened. Today you can see a man in a suit, a man in uniform, and a man in jeans and a brightly colored t-shirt next to each other on the street, and nobody will even blink at any of those outfits.
https://odysee.com/Ausl%C3%A4nder-raus-Deutschland-den-Deutschen-Remix:b
https://youtu.be/m7VOX-TjFoM?si=Ql-cm2Ew65UEufaX
Man, these are really catchy tunes.
I don’t think all foreigners should get out. There are foreigners from Europe, South America, China, South-East Asia, etc. who are willing to integrate and are culturally compatible. Our problem in Germany are the bush monkeys from Muslim nations who are establishing their parallel societies here and have nothing but derision and hatred for Germany and its culture.
This is the song you can hear in the second video. YouTube is clamping down hard on it. I encourage even those who do not speak German to blast it from their car. It is a banger.
@ Sleazy.
Love the video, those blondie fit dancer chicks are my #1 type of chick I go for OD.
And the pilot is pure square-jawed Aryan master race 😆 what’s the theme of the song “ immigrants go home(?).
Hey when I lived in Bremen there was a punk song that was top of the charts “ Men Are Pigs” I think it was ( mannar sind Sweine) .. do u remember that ? By Die Artze.
Very funny – everyone used to sing it in bars and clubs in Bremen that summer 😆
My German friend sent me a Rammstein song recently called “ Dicke Titten” also a hilarious video. Love a bit of Rammstein. Could only have come from Germany that band. 😆 🔥
Muslims are problematic where ever they settle. As by their religion they don’t want to integrate or live side by side they want to dominate and impose. They are a barbaric fighting middle eastern mentality stuck in the dark ages and should not relocate.
Here they piss off the aussies by building massive mosques in their areas and taking over that suburb. Until it ends up looking like Istanbul or some shit,
Asians and other cultures are smarter and respect the rule of “ when in Rome do as the Roman’s do” .
Indians can integrate but just stink out the place with their cooking mainly. And creep out the chicks looking for bobs and vagene.
Aussies are very proud of their country , quite racist and don’t take shit from the “mozzies” They cracked it with the Lebanese in Sydney back in 2005 in a big way. fair play to them for putting the foot down I say. The Lebanese were tryna dominate and take the beach off the locals and they weren’t having it . Aussies hate the “ Lebbo’s” as they call them. As they are a thieving ,scamming, gangster-thug race of people as they consider them .
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/cronulla-riots-2005/video/b411a2d0ea96665fe85042a5dae0d514
@ Cheeky_James
https://www.eunews.it/en/2024/05/29/what-the-remake-of-lamour-toujours-in-the-extreme-right-tells-us-about-young-german-voters/
https://youtu.be/Hrot0uroZ2w?si=YCrPf_9jNVw5624r
https://tvpworld.com/82480143/afd-deportation-song-at-election-party-sparks-outrage
You lived in Bremen? I live in Hamburg and studied in Bremen @ University of Bremen, Production engineering with focus on process engineering.
Männer sind Schweine: https://youtu.be/404oPn6tudE?si=zTXuZQQt0q7ROfCl
@Cheeky_James
“You” also had an enforcer and “cleanser” on that neighboring island.
Great song! Sometimes things on this blog can get heated, so I propose we find some things we all agree on.
I’ll start:
Fit blondes with tan thighs. Can I get an amen?
Alek’s spoken about “Complimentary Matching/Mating” before, in that we seek mates whose genes makeup for our own genetically shortcomings (i.e. very short girls obsessing with super tall guys, skinny dudes preferring “curvier” chicks, burlier dudes preferring chicks on the skinnier side, etc.) or in somewhat compliment/positively synergize with ours to produce offspring of better genetics, etc. Its a pretty good explanation for the “Opposites Attract” phenomenon.
I definitely notice this in myself naturally being on the heavier side. Extra flab on a girl is always a negative to me. In the past (this happens a lot less often these days, especially since I started lifting weights regularly. Now I notice chicken legs on women, lol.) I’ve even been attracted to women whom you may argue, are teetering (but never outright, we’re not talking a bag of bones here. lol) on being excessively skinny.
Maybe some of you here are into “curvier” girls, but I’m gonna hunch no regular here is into outright fat chicks. (I won’t judge though if any raises their hand to prove me wrong.)
@Gerd
Re Die Ärzte- that’s the one. It was an anthem at the time. 😎 I remember thinking they looked like a German version of the band “The Offspring”. Surely inspired by.
“You lived in Bremen? I live in Hamburg and studied in Bremen @ University of Bremen, Production engineering with focus on process engineering.“
Wow. Cool! I lived in Bremen for about 6 months or so. Somewhere in range of the Becks Brewery. ( Haake Beck 🍺 👌) Cool place. Loved it. Do u remember an American themed bar named “Johnny B Goodes’ in the city? I worked there! Haha. With lots of hot blonde busty German bar -wenches 😃 😍
Bremen ‘square’ near the big church is awesome with bars and restaurants etc and recall a good underground nite club there.
The girl I was seeing at the time worked for DASA aerospace also. U would defs know them I’d imagine.(?)
Another snap re your course. I studied the same degree UK. For real. It was a 4 yr Bachelor of Technology. I was a process / industrial engineer at a big IT production facility after graduating. For about 3 yrs. All that good productivity and efficiency stuff. LEAN, 6 sigma, JIT , productivity methods and planning etc etc
What is your degree classed as in Germany btw?
Is it Bachelor of Engineering? Or Tech like mine?
I left the field years ago but still used my degree to get an Aus Visa. It got the tick from Eng Australia but as a lower class of engineer – a “Eng technologist/ planner” . 👍
At times I’ve regretted choosing that degree and not a more specialised Eng degree. But it turned out very handy to have and very broad application in various work areas 👍
@ Herkerderker – amen 🙏
@Maou – yes this is correct re opposites attract and mating drive to ‘survive and thrive’ in future generations. I’d prefer my kids to be taller, stronger and smarter than me ideally. So have an urge to mate with tall fit women. Even if they are somewhat ugly or butter faced.
My strong handsome genes could dominate in the face. My family has very strong genes that way. But we do lack height in the family.
I loved the German efficiency of the city.
For example we would always remark jokingly re the bus/ tram system re the timetables.
If I arrived at a bus stop at 4:01pm and the timetable said there was a bus at 4:00pm .. i had almost certainly missed that bus 😆
In UK I could wait for an hour when 3 buses had been scheduled to arrive in that period.. and then those 3 would arrive at once. And probably 1 would show “out of service” as driver wanted to knock off early. Lol
Plus the beer . Germany has some of the best beers in the world. Erdinger, Wersteiner etc and all the varieties. 👌 could stomach the pale beer tho (?Wheissbeer). Not a fan of that.
Even the cheap supermarket stuff was decent .
Plus the deadly Jäegermeister and GoldShlager shots! 🥃 🥃 🥃🥃🥃🥃 🥳
We used to go to an awesome outdoor swimming pool with high diving boards (3-4 levels) and even got to see the Rolling Stones for free when they played the Stadium there that summer.
And it’s not that long a drive to Amsterdam either… great location 👍 Golden times in Bremen! 👌
Except when I had to go the the immigration office and get my ‘Anmeldegung’ work rights stamp thing to work. That was a pain in the ass. Haha. (Pre Euro days.)
I went to Berlin for the Love Parade that summer also. Awesome Party 👍
Amazon Prime managed to achieve peak woke this summer.
You know how we sometimes make jokes about wokeness, like “I’m surprised they didn’t make the character black, gay, and disabled, hahaha!” ?
Well, they finally did. In the Amazon Prime original series My Lady Jane, the king of England is black, gay, and disabled (wheelchair-bound).
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64778617/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Presumably, in the visions of Hollywood executives, white men no longer exist, except perhaps as Nazis waiting to be shot. Of course, white women need to be kept around so that black men have sexual partners. The article you linked to made me laugh because the opening sentence was unintentionally funny: “Amazon Prime is steadily catching up with Netflix, in regards to iconic original shows.” Yes, Amazon Prime is indeed catching up with Netflix when it comes to turning every white man in history into an urban gentleman. I wonder if the King of England in that TV show smokes crack and sips Hennessy when he is not sitting in front of his PlayStation.
Funny thing is that while they are applauding this utter bs, you know they’d flip a lid if we did the opposite. Imagine if we changed things in a show so that Shaka Zulu was a white king ruling and leading black people. They’d be crying “Racism! Racism!” ’til their throats wore out.
Aaron,
May I ask what your view is regarding the “Clean Plate” mentality in many traditional households?
I think I’ve already talked before about how my family ingrained this mentality into me, and I definitely think its partially responsible for my struggle with excess weight. My family tree originated from being poor though, so I can see why. In poor families, this is a good. But in well-off families, it leads to obesity.
I’ve been slowly overcoming it though. I just threw away some badly cooked Pancit Canton last night. That wasn’t that hard of a decision though, simply because I knew that was junk food full of empty calories. I also threw out some day old french fries when I got hungry later in the night and couldn’t make it taste good again. (if I’m gonna take in some empty calories, it had better taste good)
Hypothetically, had it been, say…Kare-Kare (that would be expiring the next day, so keeping it in the fridge wouldn’t have been an option), I would have had a much harder time making that decision and if we didn’t have dogs that I could just feed it to, I probably would have eaten it. It definitely pains me to see good food (and by “good food”, I mean food that is nutritious AND delicious) go to waste.
At least I’m progressing I guess. I’ve reframed my thinking that, if I eat food that doesn’t help me in any way or even sabotage me, its the same thing as wasting it anyway. so might as well throw it away instead of letting it harm me and my goals.
My view is that serving sizes should be appropriate and thus you can reasonably expect both children and adults to eat everything that was served. In fact, it is normally seen as impolite to leave food on the plate, in particular if you are a guest. Of course there are exceptions, for instance if you have a food allergy the host was not aware of, or, as you also mention, the food did not turn out very well, albeit that is normally quite rare. I do not recall a single time my mother messed up a meal, for instance, and I surely would have as this would have been an exceptional event.
In cultures where it is common to not serve individual plates of food but instead put the food on the table for everyone to take from, there will normally be leftovers, just as there are in Western culture. Of course, these you try to save, and finish whatever cannot be kept in the fridge or stored otherwise. On an individual level, I have the impression that if you take more than you can eat, you leave a really bad impression so this should probably not happen.
The key is in what Aaron is saying about serving sizes. Finishing your plate is a reasonable expectation when the serving sizes are also reasonable. When serving sizes are unreasonable, it becomes an unreasonable expectation.
In some restaurants you get truly massive servings. Feel no pressure to finish these.
In America this is more like “most” or “almost all” rather than “some” restaurants. I was shocked by the sizes of the food and beverages you got there. Even growing teenagers could easily get fat on those massive dishes.
If you adjust to thinking of American orders as two meals, it becomes very economical. Buy a dish, eat half, take half home and eat another day. 🙂
“If you adjust to thinking of American orders as two meals, it becomes very economical. Buy a dish, eat half, take half home and eat another day.”
I don’t live in the US, but there are certainly restaurants here in the Philippines that are just like this. It probably does contribute to more obesity (38.6% according to quick google search, so just 3% less than the US) here, but it doesn’t feel right to complain since, as you’ve said, if you discipline yourself to portion it for next meal, its good bang for your buck.
On a different note, I think I’m experiencing the magic of body recomposition right now. Since I started lifting again and reestablishing my high protein diet (to the best of my ability here), I wasn’t expecting to see (let alone the folks around me) results so soon. When I began noticing the slight changes, I initially dismissed it as just my imagination or maybe loss of bloat until people started commenting. Only ones who haven’t commented are the ones with me in the house who see me everyday. (I don’t know if they’ve noticed, but its probably not worth asking right now)
At least my being low energy and napping for a good portion of the day isn’t for nothing!
Alek, if you happen to be around, do you get similar symptoms during a calorie deficit? Its a problem I can bear with though, fortunately my eating routine takes care of the hunger for the most part (at least for now) which is the biggest obstacle.
I concur with Aaron regarding serving sizes. I myself struggled with it at home while living alone because I was accustomed to cooking for more people, and because of my unpredictable travel schedule I cannot have many leftovers in my fridge, lest they go bad.
Cant speak for the rest of Latin America. But here in Argentina it is usually clean plate as well, but I dont think anyone takes it as impolite if there are any leftovers.
In some cultures (middle east) you are expected to leave some on your plate when you finish. If you clean the plate it means you are still hungry and your hosts will keep putting more food on your plate.
Another one of those which way, western man?-kind of posts – sorority rushing at an HBCU (Historically Black College and University) and a normal university:
https://x.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1830428454795317427
Repeat after me: Races do not exist. There is no difference between these two groups of girls except the color of their skin. If the black girls where white, both groups would be completely indistinguishable in absolutely every possible way.
Oh, was their skin of a different color? I hadn’t noticed…
😉
The same guy who oversee the border apparently does so with FEMA, and blockades have been set up to halt any relief from getting through. I wonder if it has anything to do with white people dying?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/spacex-engineer-north-carolina-has-dire-warning-biden-harris-fema-actively-blocking
Finished watching Cobra Kai. Does anyone else find Robby to be the shittiest character? I wonder if that actor is that terrible in everything he’s in. He has like 2 facial expressions and 2 vocal inflections in total. Like a singer who just hits 2 notes.
I just watched the movie Saltburn, which recently came up in the comments. I found it passable at best. Here are some pretty big issues with it:
– 131 minute runtime; the set up is too long, the ending is rushed and poorly executed
– Several utterly disgusting homoerotic and homosexual scenes. I covered the screen for over ten minutes in total.
– Inconsistent plot. At the end, everything is supposedly explained, but this does not take into account the low probability of some of the events happening in the first place. Apparently, every little tool the protagonist needs he carries with himself as if he was in possession of a magic hat. Most absurdly, he is in complete isolation at this castle, yet is able to source some potent poison, which he just squirts into a bottle of champagne at the right moment.
I was so baffled by the amateurish plot so I had to look up the writer of the screenplay. Well, it was a woman and stereotypical female thinking can be seen all over it: If something does not make sense, she just made something up, no matter how incoherent it may be.
Some more nonsense in Saltburn:
– The protagonist is from an upper middle-class household, as we later learn, yet he downdresses and assumes lower-class antics to ingratiate himself with some rich fellow student
– After the protagonist poisoned that rich guy everybody just shrugged because in the world of this movie it is apparently normal that athletic 19-year-old men just die, suddenly and unexpectely
– There is a scene in which some hot slut wants to have sex with the protagonist who, as I may remind you, is a genius criminal mastermind who knows absolutely everything about human behavior. That slut wants to fuck him to make that rich, handsome boy jealous, and she even verbalizes this. Of course, this IQ300 genius then blurts out that the other guy will not care (“it will not even register with him”), which makes the slut get up and leave.
– Amusingly, this movie is supposed to make fun of the rich. However, the kindest person in this movie is the rich young man the protagonist is obsessed with whereas he is a resentful fake-working-class psychopath. It does not matter that he is actually from the upper middle-class as the distance between him and the rich family this movie centers around is infinitely large. It seems the takeaway is that only the truly rich can be kind.
I could add a few more examples but these are some of the more egregious ones. Of course, the mainstream praised this female screenwriter for this fabulous yet utterly laughable script.
After watching Saltburn, see comment above, I needed to get rid of the homosexual stench it left, so I watched Godzilla Minus One, which gets my highest recommendation. It is not only a very entertaining action movie. On top, the story is couched into a tale of duty and honor. This is not just a great action movie but a great movie overall.
I saw this movie in theaters. I thoroughly enjoyed it and thought that the fact that it had a strong focus on the protagonist’s struggles through various points in his life was a nice touch, besides just being a movie about a massive radioactive dinosaur. The filmography and CG were all top notch as well, I thought. If I had any real critiques of it I think it would be the over the top anime-tier autistic emotional response that the lead character has when you know what happens.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ALKcdlFeh-Y&pp=ygULRGFyayBrbmlnaHQ%3D
They are destroying a masterpiece, yet once again!
You serious? Lol.
No I mean the original is a masterpiece. They are destroying it with a remake.
This is a fan made trailer though, with obvious AI generated video of Christian Bale. Some of the footage looks like it was lifted straight from Nolan’s trilogy.