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I came across a most interesting paper titled The Great Male Renunciation: Men’s Dress Reform in Inter-war Britain. You can find it on sci-hub if interested.
Here’s the ChatGPT summary of the paper:
“The article “The Great Male Renunciation: Men’s Dress Reform in Inter-war Britain” explores how men’s fashion became more austere from the late 18th century, focusing on the Men’s Dress Reform Party (MDRP) founded in 1929. The MDRP sought to free men from restrictive clothing norms, advocating for more comfortable, health-conscious, and individualistic attire. The movement was influenced by post-WWI conditions, health concerns, and a reaction against rising feminism. Despite some successes, like legitimizing casualwear, the movement largely failed due to resistance from societal norms and industry interests”
Here’s a quote from the opening paragraph:
“… John Carl Flugel (a psychologist from University College London), contended that since the end of the eighteenth century men had been progressively ignoring brighter, more elaborate, and more varied forms of masculine ornamentation by ‘making their own tailoring the more austere and ascetic of the arts’.
He called this event ‘The Great Masculine Renunciation’, or the occasion when men ‘abandoned their claim to be considered beautiful’ and ‘henceforth aimed at being only useful’. In the face of inter-war feminism and the denigration of masculinity, the professionals who joined the Men’s Dress Reform Party regarded it as their duty to lobby for the aesthetic liberation of men.”
And a few more quotes from later on:
“Men were actually proud, rather than mortified, to find other men wearing identical clothes.”
“Just as men feared that they had become mere accessories to women, so, too, men’s clothing was said to have become simply a foil to women’s clothing… Ironically, they argued, to regain masculine power, men needed to take inspiration from feminism… Men’s dress expressed imprisonment; women’s expressed emancipation.”
It seems the author believes that men are supposed to wear not utilitarian clothes but follow inane fashion, just like women. With the exception of gays and old-school PUAs, men care little about their clothes. Women, on the other hand, often buy clothes they never even wear. I can guess which kind of company would be interested in sponsoring research on the supposed “imprisonment” of men via their comparatively basic clothes.
I took a look at the paper. It’s written by Dr. Joanna Bourke, a self-proclaimed socialist feminist. Pass.
Either way, the goal of the MDRP has already been achieved. Those were the days when all men dressed borderline identical: a full suit and jacket. Even just taking off the jacket and standing around in your shirtsleeves was considered inappropriate, and something hoodlums did.
Look at street photos from the civilized world at the time, and that’s all you’ll see on men. The only exceptions will be those whose work required them to wear other things, like policemen in uniform, or construction workers in their gear.
This lasted into the 1950s or 60s or so. Since that time, the breadth of acceptable clothing for men has consistently broadened. Today you can see a man in a suit, a man in uniform, and a man in jeans and a brightly colored t-shirt next to each other on the street, and nobody will even blink at any of those outfits.
https://odysee.com/Ausl%C3%A4nder-raus-Deutschland-den-Deutschen-Remix:b
https://youtu.be/m7VOX-TjFoM?si=Ql-cm2Ew65UEufaX
Man, these are really catchy tunes.
I don’t think all foreigners should get out. There are foreigners from Europe, South America, China, South-East Asia, etc. who are willing to integrate and are culturally compatible. Our problem in Germany are the bush monkeys from Muslim nations who are establishing their parallel societies here and have nothing but derision and hatred for Germany and its culture.
This is the song you can hear in the second video. YouTube is clamping down hard on it. I encourage even those who do not speak German to blast it from their car. It is a banger.
@ Sleazy.
Love the video, those blondie fit dancer chicks are my #1 type of chick I go for OD.
And the pilot is pure square-jawed Aryan master race 😆 what’s the theme of the song “ immigrants go home(?).
Hey when I lived in Bremen there was a punk song that was top of the charts “ Men Are Pigs” I think it was ( mannar sind Sweine) .. do u remember that ? By Die Artze.
Very funny – everyone used to sing it in bars and clubs in Bremen that summer 😆
My German friend sent me a Rammstein song recently called “ Dicke Titten” also a hilarious video. Love a bit of Rammstein. Could only have come from Germany that band. 😆 🔥
Muslims are problematic where ever they settle. As by their religion they don’t want to integrate or live side by side they want to dominate and impose. They are a barbaric fighting middle eastern mentality stuck in the dark ages and should not relocate.
Here they piss off the aussies by building massive mosques in their areas and taking over that suburb. Until it ends up looking like Istanbul or some shit,
Asians and other cultures are smarter and respect the rule of “ when in Rome do as the Roman’s do” .
Indians can integrate but just stink out the place with their cooking mainly. And creep out the chicks looking for bobs and vagene.
Aussies are very proud of their country , quite racist and don’t take shit from the “mozzies” They cracked it with the Lebanese in Sydney back in 2005 in a big way. fair play to them for putting the foot down I say. The Lebanese were tryna dominate and take the beach off the locals and they weren’t having it . Aussies hate the “ Lebbo’s” as they call them. As they are a thieving ,scamming, gangster-thug race of people as they consider them .
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/cronulla-riots-2005/video/b411a2d0ea96665fe85042a5dae0d514
@ Cheeky_James
https://www.eunews.it/en/2024/05/29/what-the-remake-of-lamour-toujours-in-the-extreme-right-tells-us-about-young-german-voters/
https://youtu.be/Hrot0uroZ2w?si=YCrPf_9jNVw5624r
https://tvpworld.com/82480143/afd-deportation-song-at-election-party-sparks-outrage
You lived in Bremen? I live in Hamburg and studied in Bremen @ University of Bremen, Production engineering with focus on process engineering.
Männer sind Schweine: https://youtu.be/404oPn6tudE?si=zTXuZQQt0q7ROfCl
@Cheeky_James
“You” also had an enforcer and “cleanser” on that neighboring island.
Great song! Sometimes things on this blog can get heated, so I propose we find some things we all agree on.
I’ll start:
Fit blondes with tan thighs. Can I get an amen?
Alek’s spoken about “Complimentary Matching/Mating” before, in that we seek mates whose genes makeup for our own genetically shortcomings (i.e. very short girls obsessing with super tall guys, skinny dudes preferring “curvier” chicks, burlier dudes preferring chicks on the skinnier side, etc.) or in somewhat compliment/positively synergize with ours to produce offspring of better genetics, etc. Its a pretty good explanation for the “Opposites Attract” phenomenon.
I definitely notice this in myself naturally being on the heavier side. Extra flab on a girl is always a negative to me. In the past (this happens a lot less often these days, especially since I started lifting weights regularly. Now I notice chicken legs on women, lol.) I’ve even been attracted to women whom you may argue, are teetering (but never outright, we’re not talking a bag of bones here. lol) on being excessively skinny.
Maybe some of you here are into “curvier” girls, but I’m gonna hunch no regular here is into outright fat chicks. (I won’t judge though if any raises their hand to prove me wrong.)
Amazon Prime managed to achieve peak woke this summer.
You know how we sometimes make jokes about wokeness, like “I’m surprised they didn’t make the character black, gay, and disabled, hahaha!” ?
Well, they finally did. In the Amazon Prime original series My Lady Jane, the king of England is black, gay, and disabled (wheelchair-bound).
https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64778617/
This is absolutely ridiculous. Presumably, in the visions of Hollywood executives, white men no longer exist, except perhaps as Nazis waiting to be shot. Of course, white women need to be kept around so that black men have sexual partners. The article you linked to made me laugh because the opening sentence was unintentionally funny: “Amazon Prime is steadily catching up with Netflix, in regards to iconic original shows.” Yes, Amazon Prime is indeed catching up with Netflix when it comes to turning every white man in history into an urban gentleman. I wonder if the King of England in that TV show smokes crack and sips Hennessy when he is not sitting in front of his PlayStation.
Funny thing is that while they are applauding this utter bs, you know they’d flip a lid if we did the opposite. Imagine if we changed things in a show so that Shaka Zulu was a white king ruling and leading black people. They’d be crying “Racism! Racism!” ’til their throats wore out.
Aaron,
May I ask what your view is regarding the “Clean Plate” mentality in many traditional households?
I think I’ve already talked before about how my family ingrained this mentality into me, and I definitely think its partially responsible for my struggle with excess weight. My family tree originated from being poor though, so I can see why. In poor families, this is a good. But in well-off families, it leads to obesity.
I’ve been slowly overcoming it though. I just threw away some badly cooked Pancit Canton last night. That wasn’t that hard of a decision though, simply because I knew that was junk food full of empty calories. I also threw out some day old french fries when I got hungry later in the night and couldn’t make it taste good again. (if I’m gonna take in some empty calories, it had better taste good)
Hypothetically, had it been, say…Kare-Kare (that would be expiring the next day, so keeping it in the fridge wouldn’t have been an option), I would have had a much harder time making that decision and if we didn’t have dogs that I could just feed it to, I probably would have eaten it. It definitely pains me to see good food (and by “good food”, I mean food that is nutritious AND delicious) go to waste.
At least I’m progressing I guess. I’ve reframed my thinking that, if I eat food that doesn’t help me in any way or even sabotage me, its the same thing as wasting it anyway. so might as well throw it away instead of letting it harm me and my goals.
My view is that serving sizes should be appropriate and thus you can reasonably expect both children and adults to eat everything that was served. In fact, it is normally seen as impolite to leave food on the plate, in particular if you are a guest. Of course there are exceptions, for instance if you have a food allergy the host was not aware of, or, as you also mention, the food did not turn out very well, albeit that is normally quite rare. I do not recall a single time my mother messed up a meal, for instance, and I surely would have as this would have been an exceptional event.
In cultures where it is common to not serve individual plates of food but instead put the food on the table for everyone to take from, there will normally be leftovers, just as there are in Western culture. Of course, these you try to save, and finish whatever cannot be kept in the fridge or stored otherwise. On an individual level, I have the impression that if you take more than you can eat, you leave a really bad impression so this should probably not happen.
The key is in what Aaron is saying about serving sizes. Finishing your plate is a reasonable expectation when the serving sizes are also reasonable. When serving sizes are unreasonable, it becomes an unreasonable expectation.
In some restaurants you get truly massive servings. Feel no pressure to finish these.
In America this is more like “most” or “almost all” rather than “some” restaurants. I was shocked by the sizes of the food and beverages you got there. Even growing teenagers could easily get fat on those massive dishes.
If you adjust to thinking of American orders as two meals, it becomes very economical. Buy a dish, eat half, take half home and eat another day. 🙂
“If you adjust to thinking of American orders as two meals, it becomes very economical. Buy a dish, eat half, take half home and eat another day.”
I don’t live in the US, but there are certainly restaurants here in the Philippines that are just like this. It probably does contribute to more obesity (38.6% according to quick google search, so just 3% less than the US) here, but it doesn’t feel right to complain since, as you’ve said, if you discipline yourself to portion it for next meal, its good bang for your buck.
On a different note, I think I’m experiencing the magic of body recomposition right now. Since I started lifting again and reestablishing my high protein diet (to the best of my ability here), I wasn’t expecting to see (let alone the folks around me) results so soon. When I began noticing the slight changes, I initially dismissed it as just my imagination or maybe loss of bloat until people started commenting. Only ones who haven’t commented are the ones with me in the house who see me everyday. (I don’t know if they’ve noticed, but its probably not worth asking right now)
At least my being low energy and napping for a good portion of the day isn’t for nothing!
Alek, if you happen to be around, do you get similar symptoms during a calorie deficit? Its a problem I can bear with though, fortunately my eating routine takes care of the hunger for the most part (at least for now) which is the biggest obstacle.
Another one of those which way, western man?-kind of posts – sorority rushing at an HBCU (Historically Black College and University) and a normal university:
https://x.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1830428454795317427
Repeat after me: Races do not exist. There is no difference between these two groups of girls except the color of their skin. If the black girls where white, both groups would be completely indistinguishable in absolutely every possible way.
Oh, was their skin of a different color? I hadn’t noticed…
😉
The same guy who oversee the border apparently does so with FEMA, and blockades have been set up to halt any relief from getting through. I wonder if it has anything to do with white people dying?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/spacex-engineer-north-carolina-has-dire-warning-biden-harris-fema-actively-blocking