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    1. The most recent picture I saw of Trump shows him standing next to a defeated-looking Zelenskyy, probably taken from the meeting the video above is about. Of course, the latter is a manlet so this makes Trump look bigger. Trump is a tall guy at 6’3″.

  1. Haiti is a very civilized county. It also has a very civilized and well-mannered president, so it was probably a temporary lapse of judgment that he drank from a water pitcher in front of the UN assembly:
    https://x.com/runews/status/1839388657146593313
    In case any of our cucked white politicians spoke after him, they probably took a sip from the water pitcher as well in order to show their solidarity.

  2. A very civilized Indian gentleman enriched his host country Singapore by taking a dump in front of one of the most expensive pieces of real estate, not just in Singapore but the entire world:
    https://archive.ph/lP4Ve
    The judge was based, but not based enough:

    When the construction worker asked the judge for a lower fine, the judge asked him: “Do you know how to get a low fine? Don’t do this in public.”

    1. German politics is a total shitshow. On a more positive side, the Green party is imploding and the “liberals” (FDP), which are happy to gobble the cock of any party who invites them to form a governing coalition with them, is becoming completely irrelevant. In the recent election in Brandenburg, they got 0.83% of the vote.

  3. Hurricane Helene has ravaged the Southeast of the US. Thankfully, FEMA has been preparing well for such an event, for instance by using their money on illegal immigrants and diversity initiatives:
    https://archive.ph/rcjMW
    On Telegram, I am reading that FEMA is turning away volunteers. They also allegedly confiscate (and destroy) supplies provided to hurricane victims by citizens. People claim that there is a racket behind FEMA, i.e. they get food rations from “approved suppliers”. Google completely suppresses such stories, so I am sure that they are completely made up.

    1. They are offering two week contracts for medical workers in Ashville, NC paying $86 an hour for two weeks, and the hours are long. You’re given about 5 hours to sleep, and if you claim unable to sleep then you get paid a sum for those hours as well. It’s terrible working conditions, though. You get flown in, and you’re basically put up in a tent for the duration. There currently is no guarantee of power or running water.

    2. Pickernanny, what kind of “medical workers” are those? That’s significantly below what doctors in the USA make, so I imagine it’s nurses or something?

    1. I’m not very surprised. The Taliban treatment of women makes it pretty clear that any Afghan woman fulfills the criteria for protected/asylee status.

      But that’s the wrong topic to be discussing. The right topic to discuss is whether we should accept refugees and asylees at all.

      Personally I’m of the opinion that we should not accept them. Ever. If an immigrant is not a benefit to a country (for example a highly-skilled worker), or in a legitimate marriage with a national, then they should never be allowed to settle in the country.

      There are probably exceptions I’m not thinking of right now, but coming from a dangerous country is not one of them. Fix your own country instead of running off to another.

    2. There should probably even be a cap on high-skilled workers. As we can see in the US, once such a program gets established, corporations heavily abuse it in order to suppress local wages. A friend from Beijing sarcastically remarked that “first they send Nobel laureates, then come the professors, then the foreign students, etc.”. Before you know it, the country is flooded with foreigners.

    3. “Fix your own country instead of running off to another.”

      While I hate useless leeches as much as the next guy and I absolutely do not wish to defend these sorts of cretins, this is a very, VERY tall order (to say the least) to expect of any individual.

      For instance, I have spoken to somebody who chose to move to Finland and have their kids there so that they are raised in a country with an excellent education system and a good societal culture. I also have spoken to one other individual from the same country as I am who came to have similar aspirations. (if he fails to move, he’s chosen to simply refrain from having kids rather than let them be raised and suffer under the broken system here)

      I think those are excellent reasons for choosing to move to a different country. Of course, maybe those fall under the exceptional circumstances that you were talking about.

    4. Maou, exceptions are exactly that: exceptions. You can easily imagine what would happen if many millions of people would move to a different country because of better economic opportunities. In the end, they would drag the host country down with them. I know, this is a completely hypothetical scenario, so please suspend disbelief for a moment.

    5. It’s like all of the Mexicans who invaded Los Angeles. Downtown LA looks just like downtown Tijuana today. So they basically didn’t go anywhere.

    6. @GLAS

      “Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing themselves”.

      Another classic passage, and I think its a very relevant one in this case.

      If you cut off your “friends” (could even be toxic family in the worst case) and move elsewhere in an attempt to get away from the toxic dynamics of your old social circle and change your life, but lack a sense of self-reflection or self-awareness. or worse; the adamant refusal to even consider the possibility that you might, just might, have a hand in your problems.

      How common do you think it is for normies to watch Idiocracy, laugh along, and think it doesn’t apply to them?), you run the very real risk of recreating the problems you were trying to get away from in the first place, essentially just polluting the new area you moved to for the worse.

      A supportive environment can be very instrumental for change, but its not going to do all the work for you. Expecting it so (particularly when a whole mass of people with this kind of mindset do it) results in what you just described. Don’t worry, I get exactly where Aaron is going.

      Reminds me of my uncle again who I spoke of here before. His inability to acknowledge his own shortcomings and poking his nose in other people’s businesses guarantees that no matter where he is, he will eventually always develop an issue with whoever is unfortunate enough to have to put up with him.

      He’s threatened violence against me (I would have been more than happy to mop the floor with him in the ring, but maybe its for the best it didn’t happen.) and eventually I learned he’s threatened violence and has had relationship problems with a good chunk of other family members in the past. 13 years post high-school, and he’s been my closest brush with the possibility of violence in all those years.

  4. The elite shit-rag The Atlantic put out an article that laments that even at elite colleges students are no longer able to read books:
    https://archive.ph/uKA4z
    Amusingly, that article does not mention “blacks”, “diversity”, or “affirmative action” at all.

    1. Do you think it could also be an environmental factor as well? I mean, even reasonably intelligent whites entering college these days probably have some degree of brain rot from being raise on tablets and smart phones. How many 18-22 year olds have the attention span to properly comprehend a text book, or whatever the article is referring to?

    2. I am sure that IQs are down across the board. In fact, there is even research on the negative Flynn effect, i.e. the observation that IQs are dropping. Arguably, this has to do a lot more with mass immigration to the West than environmental factors. Still, when I read “elite college”, the first association I have is “anti-white bias”.

    3. I have a hard time believing this is real, but academia is so far gone that it is certainly in the realm of possibility. Also, thanks to ChatGPT students can produce an unlimited amount of garbage, so 15,000 words within a day, as in this example, should be doable as long as you do not care a lot. If the professor is as lazy as the students, they can both pretend to take academics seriously yet not put in any effort. Shaqueesha may have a hard time putting together ChatGPT prompts whereas the more gifted students use AI tools to get a skeleton or a rough draft of a paper, which they revise. They will all get an A anyway, with the professor not even reading their work.

    1. Well, to be honest: I never had problems with Jewish fellow citizens, but I often had problems with Muslims. I would rather see Iran go under than Israel.

    2. The racist answer would probably be that Jewish machinations affect you indirectly due to, for instance, your country getting flooded with third-world immigrants and drugs, and the less said about usury, the better. Of course, I am not a racist, so I do not know how to respond to your point.

    3. If Europe lets itself be fucked by Jewish masters like George Soros, then it’s Europe’s fault. It always takes two to tango. Nevertheless, I would rather live in Israel than in Iran or Egypt.

    4. I think we have had this discussion before. Completely hypothetically, does your line of reasoning also imply that if Europe manned up and kicked out the Jews once again it is their right to do so or do you favor some kind of Schroedinger’s anti-semitism where every action or inaction is anti-semitic?

    5. What reason would there be to expel the European Jews? Most of them are quite well educated and integrated and certainly not part of the Jewish world conspiracy.

    6. This was of course just a hypothetical question. People like Barbara Lerner-Spectre probably only exist in Minecraft anyway. By the way, what is your take on shutting down NGOs that actively work on undermining society and expelling their foreign-funded foreign employees, regardless of race or religion?

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