Recently, Gerd posted a link to a video, in which a woman announces to the world that she is “looking for a man in finance, trust fund, 6’5″, blue eyes”, which an EDM producer turned into a catchy track. As amusing as this may be, there is a bit more to the female delusion on display here, so let us dig in, but not without a good laugh first:
The attitude of this woman is not particularly uncommon. Of course women want men with resources. Her standards are a bit high, though. It would be as if an average to below-average looking man of rather modest means demanded to get a porn-star caliber woman, “blonde, young, double Ds, no nagging” as a wife. In the case of a man, it would be completely laughable. Yet, because women collectively engage in this kind of delusion, they do not encounter an overwhelmingly negative reaction on social media. The men who object to her nonsense get told that they are incels while women tell her that it is great that she knows her worth.
The combination of attributes the woman above wants probably does not even exist. Rich trust-fund kids are normally not the most ambitious ones so it is doubtful that they work in finance and rise through the ranks. Yet, even if we assume that there is a sizable number of such men out there, her position does not improve in the least. The biggest problem for her is that those men already have women around them, be it at work or in their private life. Expensive restaurants, clubs, or holiday resorts are swarming with women, either hussies from well-off families or women who work there for little money but with the hope of catching the eye of a rich man. In order for the approach of this woman to work there would have to be rich men out there who are completely clueless about the world and do not really interact with it. How is this even supposed to work? Does she think that the friends of any finance-blue-eyes-six-five-trust-fund guy would call him up and say,”bro, you got to see this, there is a woman who is looking for a guy just like you!”
The competition for financially successful men can get quite fierce. This does not mean that women line up to meet you, like they do outside of VIP clubs, hoping to get in. This is no joke! I partied in clubs for the rich in the French Riviera. There are indeed queues full of women wanting to get in and plenty of them get sent away. Even in much more middle-class environments women fish for key information. I know of several tech startups were the customer-service girls were overeager to drink and party with the tech bros that it became a reputational problem for these companies as they did not want to foster some kind of college dorm atmosphere. Such problems can be easily solved by putting customer service into a different building, outsourcing or, more recently, using AI assistants.
There really is no shortage of women out there for the more successful guys. From personal experience, I know of a VP of engineering (no, not in banking, where VP is a mid-level position) who enjoyed basking in the attention he got from women. He enjoyed taking a stroll through the company building and happily chatted to every woman who smiled at him. Everybody knew who he was. He was not a VP for that long, though. If I was a CEO or CTO, I would not want such a clown working under me either. I am not balling and I barely even interact with people in my career in the real world as I work primarily remotely. However, when I travel for business, go to a conference, or just mingle with colleagues or people in the industry, I encounter quite a few women who try to awkwardly flirt with me. Well, one interesting aspect in tech is that if you are in a mid-level or senior position then most if not all women you encounter make less money than you, and they know this, too. There is also the somewhat devious aspect that if you talk to customers or vendors, they normally show up in pairs: a guy for technical discussions and a woman who has no real purpose to be there. These women are normally younger and above average looking. Oh, and if some vendor wants to woo you, they invite you to dinner, so you end up sitting in a nice restaurant with a 20-something ditz and a more experienced sales rep. I bet that there are women who would bang you if you facilitated a deal.
From friends and acquaintances who do reasonably well, I have heard some rather amusing anecdotes. One guy who drives a luxury sports car has had women flash their tits at him, a guy with a big BMW has had women comment on his “really nice car”, and from guys who regularly have business lunches and dinners, so much so that the restaurant staff knows who they are, I know that sometimes cute waitresses try to flirt with them. With all of the above I do not want to imply that men who are in gainful employment and enjoy some modicum of financial success drown in pussy. However, there are a lot of women around them and plenty make their interest known. There is not really a way in for some TikTok thot.
Interestingly, there is a much more successful strategy for women who want a financially successful man. It requires a bit of foresight, however. Stacy, after slutting it up in her teens and “exploring her options” in her 20s will simply not be an attractive prospect for a financially successful guy in his mid-30s or 40s. At this point, she has nothing to offer anymore. Showing up at the finishing line and picking the winners of the economic rat race is the default strategy of a lot of women. The competition is high. Thus, this is a pretty bad strategy.
In contrast, a much more reliable way for women to end up with a financially successful man is by determining his future potential. This is not nearly as ludicrous as it sounds. I am not talking about chicks flocking towards some stoner who is surely going to make it big with his band. Instead, a young woman only needs to be in an environment where she can meet men who have already reached some degree of success, for instance by getting into a selective university or surviving in a tough technical degree program that has good earning prospects. Ideally, young Becky should have her eyes already at a guy who is driven and gets things done in high school. If she locks him in, and he ends up with a solid career, she may not have to work a day in her life. For a long time, this was the main motivation behind women wanting to work as nurses or study medicine. A lot of women left these fields once they got married to a doctor or a future doctor.
Competition for men who are full of potential but who have not realized it yet is a lot lower than for men who have partly or fully realized their potential. There is of course some risk associated with this approach because it is not at all guaranteed that every outstanding student will succeed in his career, but there is a pretty good correlation, i.e. past success correlates strongly with future success and even if there are potential setbacks, a smart and ambitious guy will probably prevail in the end. Also, guys in their final year often get their job offers many months before graduation, so someone getting a job at a reputable company that is known for good pay is probably a pretty safe bet.
The approach above is not at all revolutionary. In fact, as little as a few decades ago mothers would give such advice to their daughters. They should look for a doctor or a lawyer, they said. Today, law is overrun so it is no longer guaranteed to lead to a high income. Medicine is still a pretty good field to work in. In more recent years, strategically-minded women in college surely also realized that men majoring in STEM are a pretty good option. As guys in these fields are normally not socially savvy, competition is surely even lower than for a future doctor. Furthermore, women could probably easily party it up for two to three years, tasting a different cock every weekend, as long as they get manage to get their claws into a man with decent prospect by the time they graduate. Men should obviously be wary of such women, but in this article, we only consider the perspective of the woman.
Yep. The risk that comes with investing in future potential is much lower than playing the game of “My pussy is so special that the already successful guy will pick me out of 278 identical chicks”.
It’s not zero risk, but it’s way lower. However, the reason it seems women don’t realize this is because so many of them are taught they’re special. So the main thing they need in order to get it (wait, i’m just 1 out of 278 identical chicks), is missing. It doesn’t help that all romance movies are basically about how a chad meets an average jane and sees something special in here.
About movies. Pretty Woman springs to mind. Julia Roberts was never really hot. And played a whore in the movie.
No, Julia Roberts never was hot. She is very tall, though, which surely helped her acting career tremendously. Without her long legs, she could not convincingly have played a hooker in Pretty Woman.
Yeah, Julia Roberts was a stellar example of a late 80s/early 90s “cute, but not hot” aesthetic that was pretty popular back then. 10 years earlier or 10 years later I doubt she could have scored the same role with those looks.
Twenty years later, she could not have scored those roles either because by then, Hollywood was pushing ugliness hard and putting a slim woman with long legs into a lead role would have been a faux pas. She definitely got lucky by being the right woman at the right time. Meg Ryan is another name that comes to mind.
A guy who is in 20th percentile in terms of income is still a wagie and definitely not a baller.
A girl who is in 20th percentile looks-wise is getting ridiculous amount of attention on social media and dating apps. When she is rejecting so many interested guys, it’s hard not to feel special.
The two are not on the same serotonin level at all.
@ Skeptick
The problem is that when a girl is a 7 she acts like a 9. She can bang Chads every weekend, but not nab them for relationships.
This does give me an opportunity to mention something I’ve wanted to mention before.
This irrational drive to kiss up to and try to link up with already successful people isn’t just a woman thing.
One of the biggest things that annoyed me in my life is that most humans do this. Not just women in a romantic context.
If you try to build a business, or brand or anything at all, you will find that people in general have this irrational strategy as well.
They all will completely ignore your ambition and progress curve, and basically wait for you at the finish line and ask if they can join then. In the meantime they will exaggerate any temporary setbacks in your progress as proof you won’t make it.
I know that redpillers say “women wait at the finish line to bang the winners”, but I haven’t found guys to be much smarter when it comes to recognizing potential when it comes to joint ventures.
Like taking business as an example, the general attitude of guys seems to be offering no support, being negative and not looking at your general progress curve. But then when you make it, then they want to partner. And you’re like why would I partner after I built it all on my own with nobody believing in me.
That also applies to future employers/bosses as well. The already successful seem to be the ones to get the high visibility projects which lead to future success and promotions or winning the promotion at other employers,further being seen as even more successful.
Happened to me, near the start of my career I got married . 60K then, now pushing 200k(Midwest, US).
The really hilarious thing about the likes of her is that even after she has locked down her “trust fund” guy with the “blue eyes”, she will most likely *still* despise him for not being as masculine and sexually attractive as some about other guys she has dicked down beforehand. Like airhead princess Diana of Wales, she’ll still bang her riding instructor behind her husband’s back – and feel not a iota of remorse whatsoever for doing so.
At least her husband will be able to afford top notch investigators who can provide him with racy photos of her “self realization” escapades, so ist’s not all gloomy and doomy after all.
This should be our anthem.
But get it right, LC……..It’s “blue aaaaeeeeyes.”
Haha.
“It would be as if an average to below-average looking man of rather modest means demanded to get a porn-star caliber woman, “blonde, young, double Ds, no nagging” as a wife. In the case of a man, it would be completely laughable. Yet, because women collectively engage in this kind of delusion, they do not encounter an overwhelmingly negative reaction on social media.”
As Aaron Clarey put it, the Internet tells the truth to men and lies to women.
In the “nothing new under the sun” department, see also this story from 2007 where another golddigger advertised on Craigslist demanding a rich husband. (Note he was not also required to be 6’5″ and GQ cover material; female delusion has advanced markedly in a mere 17 years.) A guy who met her criteria replied that, in finance terms, she was a depreciating asset and therefore not a buy and hold. (Imagine such a thing being posted today; I suspect martial law would be declared.) Of course, the bubble of that time was already in the process of bursting, so said golddigger perhaps soon had more basic concerns such as making the rent.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2007/10/in_economic_terms_you_are_a_de.html
“Stacy, after slutting it up in her teens and “exploring her options” in her 20s will simply not be an attractive prospect for a financially successful guy in his mid-30s or 40s. At this point, she has nothing to offer anymore. Showing up at the finishing line and picking the winners of the economic rat race is the default strategy of a lot of women. The competition is high. Thus, this is a pretty bad strategy.”
Showing up at the finish line and picking the winner is as neatly as I’ve heard it put. Another problem with this strategy is that by the time the guy gets to said finish line, he knows all too well that these women were nowhere to be seen while he was struggling through the rat race.
Marriage is a game for young men for the same reason that war is a game for young men. You have to be young and naive to either charge a machine gun nest or agree to support some woman for 60+ years just to get laid. As you’ve noted, this is why well-off young men were/are encouraged to sow their oats, so they could learn that sex isn’t everything and therefore be less likely to make an unwise marriage. These days, of course, the potential downsides of marriage are worse and the upsides of bachelorhood greater, as in freely available pornography and prostitutes of all tiers.
“In contrast, a much more reliable way for women to end up with a financially successful man is by determining his future potential.”
Likewise, this is why women’s parents used to decide who they married, and therefore slept with and bred with, instead of them doing it.
Do you guys remember Hort or Not? It was a website where people rated each others looks. It was also a dating site where you could match with people. I remember I found this girl I found really attractive. She name dropped on all of the expensive designer clothing, cars etc she liked. I was young and stupid so I ignored it and tried to match with her. She didn’t accept it (good thing.) Anyway, she put in her profile that she only wanted serious, interested men. So basically, handsome, presumably rich guys would match with her only to talk shit to her!
As full as the world is of delusional women who overrate themselves, in this case she was actually just having fun and trying to sound like a song (think of #SELFIE by The Chainsmokers, for example).
The clip at the beginning of the video is cut off, but you can find the full clip on her TikTok channel:
https://www.tiktok.com/@girl_on_couch/video/7363742421588512043
I only watched a few clips, but her whole channel seems to be about her acting silly.
I just watched a few of her and I cannot tell if she is joking or serious. At best, she is slightly exaggerating common female views. If you cannot tell if someone is joking or not, then there is a problem. Think of typical leftist positions: the left has become so completely unhinged that you can no longer parody them. Letting in millions of illegals, turning boys into girls, and fiery but peaceful protest are all par for the course. Similarly, a lot of women have a world view that is so comical that you cannot determine if any woman with such views is just a typical entitled modern woman or (supposedly) having fun and acting silly.
Aaron,
1. Do these women try to hide their promiscuous past when they are trying to settle down with these types of men, or are they open about their sexuality in general?
2. If they do hide their sexual past, what are the most common ways these sluts hide their past?
3. Do these men have to wine and dine and court these sluts before they gain access to their girly parts?
1) For relationships, they tend to downplay their number of partners. I have met women who thought it was impressive if they told me how many guys they have banged. Of course, this is nothing but disgusting.
2) They just lie about their past. Instead of telling you that they have banged 40 guys, they mention two or three relationships and of course they barely ever went out and partied either. Oh, and those trips to Mexico were for cultural reasons, not to get shit-faced and bang five guys a day for a week straight during spring break.
3) A lot of women think they can rewrite their dating history and thus expect the same treatment as a woman who managed to keep her legs together and is dating for marriage.
It may seem obvious to us, but not a lot of women are actively playing this game of hedging your bets with high potential men while they’re still in their latent phase of professional development. Feminism has drilled into young women’s minds that they should behave like men, compete with men in the professional field, get their Bachelor’s/Master’s and work a girl boss career before settling down.
The below article shows a more self-aware young woman in a socially selective academic environment (Harvard College) who actively seeks out older prospects from across the river (Harvard Business School) and being quite successful at such an endeavour. She knows that her youth and beauty give her a superpower that can garner attention and resources from men if she would play the marriage game and commit, and she is also aware that this superpower has a time limit and fades with time. Although a ~10 year age difference is not what I would call a serious gap in age between her and her husband, it nevertheless is with her husband’s mid 30s female peers who stare suspiciously at her relationship with her man as socially inappropriate: “OMG she’s literally 25 she doesn’t have a developed brain” kind of jealous rhetoric.
https://www.thecut.com/article/age-gap-relationships-marriage-younger-women-older-man.html
This is an interesting article. By and large, it does not contradict at all with my views. However, there is one line that game me pause, “When I think of same-age, same-stage relationships, what I tend to picture is a woman who is doing too much for too little.” I think that the exact opposite is the case. Unfortunately, right afterwards we get a good dose of aggressive feminist thinking, accusing men of “taking advantage” of women. I chuckled when I read, “There is a boy out there who knows how to floss because my friend taught him. Now he kisses college girls with fresh breath.” Does she mean to say that this guy owed her friend marriage and a relationship? Besides, flossing targets plaque on teeth. I am not sure it helps with halitosis.
Oh, boy:
I stopped reading after this paragraph.