A while ago I came across the tweet below, in which a very attractive young woman seemingly has a nervous breakdown because she cannot handle working a nine-to-five job. Have a look at it yourself:
This generation is completely doomed. They can't even hold a 9-5 job without having a mental breakdown. pic.twitter.com/EPHLAPScN7
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) October 25, 2023
This being the Internet, it is not clear if you can take this video at face value. First, this clip, which presumably originated from TikTok could be completely staged for clicks and it not, then it may have been greatly exaggerated. A lot of women love getting attention, and this video reminds me quite a bit of the highschool bullshit drama some teenage girls pulled off after every exam, crying about their supposedly poor performance, only to get a lot of hugs. Of course, they invariably ended up with decent-enough grades, but partly surely only because of lenient grading of girls compared to boys, which is a well-known fact.
The other unknown is if this woman looks as good in real life as she does in this video. I think she is a solid 9 in the video. Modern image filters have come a long way, so it is entirely possible that this woman is in reality only a six. In that case, the point I am going to make is moot as it would not be a realisic option for her.
Assuming that this woman is really as attractive in real life as in the video, and that she really cannot handle getting off social media in the office for about one to two hours a day in order to play around a bit in PowerPoint, there would be a trivially simple solution to all her problems. It has worked since the dawn of civilization up until the 2000s, when it was suddenly seen as non-viable: All she needs to do is put herself in front of successful men and chose one of them. She should be able to land an established doctor or lawyer with ease, and if she is willing to deal with people whose social skills are less well developed, she probably only has to go to a big tech conference. There is a non-zero chance that she would walk out with a marriage proposal from some Senior Vice President at some tech company who makes $500k a year in base salary alone. This is not even much of an exaggeration as I have seen how incredibly thirsty this crowd can be. They even fawn over fatties and menopausal women.
Clearly, women who cannot handle the stress of being part of the workforce would be a lot better off by taking care of a man and his children. What is she even trying to prove by staying in this job? If she can barely hold it together at work, it is not very likely that she is doing her work well, and there is also a limit to the number of promotions and pay rises women can get based on “diversity” alone.
A woman like the one in the video above would have coasted through live up until the 1980s or 1990s, and there would not have been much social shaming, and even if any of her catty friends would shame her, she should be smart enough to realize that they are only bitchy towards her because she gets a free ride through life thanks to her husband whereas they still have to work part-time to make ends meet. Still, even those women were better off than today’s you-go-girls. What benefit is this for society? It seems they are good for little more than a few TikTok videos about their miserable lives.
She’s not a Nine. She’s maybe a six or a seven.
This is an interesting take. Would you mind describing her physical flaws?
Strange nose, too much make-up around her eyes. I also don’t see the rest of her body.
I see big blue eyes, a highly symmetrical face, and high cheekbones. If this is a six to you then you are, quite frankly, deluded. I have zero doubt that this woman could get a whole string of men to propose to her, assuming that she does not have an insufferable personality. Granted, this is a big “if”, and it may explain why she has to work instead of sleeping in until 10 a.m. each day while her hubby brings in the big bucks.
She’s not my type either. I also wouldn’t label her a nine. However I can see how she can be a nine to some guys.
I guess this is a good example of where individual genetics come into play. We all have a different idea of nine vs seven based on who is our genetic counterpart.
If a girl is nine to someone, she must have the universals (symmetry etc). However which symmetrical chick is a nine to which guys will depend on jaw-shape, face length, and certain ratios that are not universal (individual to whatever our genes are looking for as a genetic complement).
I concur with Alek,as usual. Pretty much the same taste variance you talk about with women.
“However which symmetrical chick is a nine to which guys will depend on jaw-shape, face length, and certain ratios that are not universal (individual to whatever our genes are looking for as a genetic complement).”
Heh,the more we read into the research,the more we begin to realize we really aren’t all that different from women in terms of attraction.
SedMyth has talked about how Looks and Beauty aren’t necessarily the same thing. Some of the girls I’ve been attracted to as a young teen (they’ve gotten worse these days. they’ve all fattened up now. Fat chicks is a universal turn off to me. Being fat myself,maybe my genes want me to grab a girl who isn’t prone to fattening up,lol.),now that I look back,would definitely get rated as mediocre (or even unattractive) by a lot of dudes,but for some reason,they got me on.
I think that’s the reason she’s not a nine to me. I’m usually attracted to girls who have a face where it’s apparent she has super-skinny genes. Like the face itself is skinny as well. She has a more baby-face type thing going on.
And I’m also in the situation of being the naturally fat dude, so my complement genetically are chicks who are super-skinny and don’t store fat (not even in the face). Perhaps it’s the opposite for naturally skinny guys.
@Gert: Are you sure you haven’t grown so fond of the Jewish nose that now you don’t like other types of nose?
I wouldn’t rate this chick lower than an 8 BTW. Mind you, I’m not sure I have laid an 8 in my life, so my standards may be a bit distorted, hah.
@Aaron Sleazy
She’s cute, might be a seven, but a Nine to me is model-tier-caliber. A ten is “one of the most beautiful and feminine women on the planet”. Rare cases.
What would be a seven to you? For you?
I also have zero doubt that this woman could get a whole string of men to propose to her, but that’s because many men are thirsty and desperate as fuck.
You are avoiding my question. What are this woman’s physical flaws that led you to conclude that she is a Six? To me, she is indeed model-caliber beautiful, and I already elaborated on what makes her beautiful.
@Manuel S
I love that Jew nose:
https://marinaweisband.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/erlernte-Hilflosigkeit.jpg
https://img.zeit.de/zeit-magazin/2023-06/marina-weisband-ratschlaege/square__960x960
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Weisband
This woman is in her mid-30s and perfectly matches the “fag hag” stereotype, i.e. older women who hang out with gay guys in order to boost their social profile. It is quite telling that you put her over that young and super-hot blonde in this video. You were probably exposed to rather severe decade-long brainwashing due to school, higher education, and media.
I think this goes back to a discussion we had about differences in how people define ratings. Personally I think a woman with no flaws is a six. To me a nine is many levels beyond just not having flaws. A nine is a woman who gets offers from modelling agencies daily, just by existing. She doesn’t have to proactively seek out modelling work, it comes to her.
They literally get DMs inviting them to Dubai, Milano, Paris etc. She doesn’t have to apply for gigs or go to tech conferences where millionaires congregate, she gets asked directly to high-end events.
Let me rephrase that for more precision. If a woman has no obvious flaws that us non-civilians can point out, that only guarantees she’s 6+; it doesn’t guarantee she’s a 9
We’re not trained plastic surgeons who can talk about angles, ratios and the things that actually make a difference between a six face and a nine face. The stuff we (non trained non surgeons) can point out consciously is the stuff that makes the difference between 6 and below.
Though this guy has some good videos where he breaks down some stuff, he makes for interesting viewing:
Just 3 of the points mentioned in the video:
https://prnt.sc/1rkDLRdGPuy1
I have not watched the video yet,but good to know this guy is a doctor. I had wondered to myself how likely is one to find a plastic surgeon,who is actually knowledgeable on this topic specifically. great to see you’ve linked just that type of guy.
I don’t think I’ll need his services anytime soon. But maybe at a much older age,he’ll be handy.
For an anti-aging surgeon you’ll want to look up karam md. He takes 55 year old guys and makes them look 30.
I might also consider it in a few decades.
@Aaron “Sleazy” Elias
I am not avoiding your question. It’s not a matter of looks, it’s a matter of scale. See AlekNovy’s post: https://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2023/11/12/modern-women-ignore-the-easy-way-out/#comment-154367
https://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2023/11/12/modern-women-ignore-the-easy-way-out/#comment-154370
I work 7:45 to 5:25 but I am able to live right near work and I have time to go to the gym 5-6 days per week and even play Genshin Impact like 20-30 minutes per day.
I don’t think she’s exactly wrong with the near-mandatory commutes for younger people. Wages haven’t kept with inflation even remotely and retarded zoning laws and monetary debasement have caused the cost of housing to be much higher than it should be if we had more sane monetary and fiscal policy. She wouldn’t have much of a problem if she could live 10 minutes walking from her work.
A few more things directly addressing the main point of your blogpost today:
1. Firstly, I agree she is a 9 assuming that this isn’t hyperfiltered. Guys in the comments calling her a six are virtue signalling about how much hotter the women they allegedly bang are (from their basement).
2. “here is a non-zero chance that she would walk out with a marriage proposal from some Senior Vice President at some tech company who makes $500k a year in base salary alone. This is not even much of an exaggeration as I have seen how incredibly thirsty this crowd can be. They even fawn over fatties and menopausal women.” Given that she is a nine, she probably thinks she deserves much more than this. She’s only 22 and she’d find it “gross” to be with a 32 year old cosmetic surgeon. Her expectations for marriage at this point are probably nothing short of Henry Cavill level if she’s going to date a decade older.
3. “A woman like the one in the video above would have coasted through live up until the 1980s or 1990s, and there would not have been much social shaming, and even if any of her catty friends would shame her, she should be smart enough to realize that they are only bitchy towards her because she gets a free ride through life thanks to her husband whereas they still have to work part-time to make ends meet. ” You hit the nail on the head right here. Women respond much more strongly to social shaming and pressure to conform. They’d rather maintain approval from their friends and be miserable than lose status among their friends for marriaging up some 30 something betabux but being happy and having a lot of free time (and banging a 25 year old 6’4 bartender with tatts while hubby is at work).
No, we have never banged a nine. It’s not even possible as they’re all in dubai, on yachts etc. The hottest girl you will ever actually get to even physically meet or be in the same room with is an 8.
It’s a pet peeve of mine when people use the rating scale where “10” becomes (the hottest girl I see while out and about), as about to 10 being the hottest girls on the planet. That’s why everything gets shifted 2 ratings up when people do that. If you see more than one nine a year, then your scale is off, because it means the best girls on the planet then need to be 12s, you have a 1-12 scale going on. The hot cashier is at best an eight. If you know a dozen hot cashiers at the places you visit, they’re eights, not nines.
Personally, I only see a nine like once every 6-12 months, and I’ve only met a few tens in my entire life (they were both international celebrities who were booked across the world with gigs all over the place).
I have similar understanding. How many people you think are in each range? I think about it this way: if we order all people by attractiveness, the mean person will be 5. Each step on the scale represents one standard deviation. So if you are a 7 (which I take to mean you are actually in [7, 8) bucket), you are at least 2 standard deviations above the mean, so only 1 in 22 people is better looking than you. A 9 would be 4 sigmas above the mean, so 1 in 15787. And a ten would be 1 in 1 744 278. Do these numbers make sense to you?
In particular, it implies there is just about half a million of 9+ people on earth, and as few as 4643 Tens. And that’s both sexes. Puts things into perspective…
Forgot to add, I used this handy table on wikipedia for estimating how many people are there in each bucket: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/68–95–99.7_rule#Table_of_numerical_values
That’s funny I was going to post similar numbers off the top of my head, but I stopped myself so I don’t post so many comments on a singular issue.
I was going to say a nine is someone who’s a 1 in 50,000 and a ten is someone who is 1 in a million.
Though my intuitive number (50k) does seem a bit too high. The number you derived, that is 16k seems right.
I do not think that the ten-scale is commonly interpreted in terms of standard deviations. My interpretation is closer to how video games are rated, i.e. 7 is about “average” and scores below a 4 are almost unheard of; similarly 10s are exceptional. This also makes intuitive sense as it is very rare for a woman to not find a man (any man!) willing to fuck her. Of course, this will not be the elusive big-dicked Chad billionaire.
That might be true, a lot of guys do use the scale that way, but they shouldn’t.
By misusing the scale that way they’re saying the hot barista in their cafe next door is the same as a girl who has guys buying her lambos just coz she exists.
Yes, as a guy he might have a 9 in desire to fuck either of those two girls, but they’re totally different.
“I have zero doubt that this woman could get a whole string of men to propose to her, assuming that she does not have an insufferable personality.”
Have you seen her TikTok? It’s 100% cringe, these women are so braindead that they can’t even fake feminity for a few weeks/months to lock down a high-quality man.
A 9 or 10 that’s perpetually single is the single worse red flag a woman can exhibit – it almost always means the woman is a nutcase and no sane man could put up with her BS.
I don’t think this girl is 9. I thought Sleazy was sarcastic, didn’t think he found her that attractive.
I like girls who had kind of long face. My face is long too so may be that is the case.
I do find this woman very attractive. Whether she is an 8 or a 9 is not really the point, though. Just take her, and put her in a random group of women. I think that she will be among the most attractive women in whatever randomly chosen group you put her in.
The problem with evaluating this woman is the fact that we only see her face. To make an overall assessment, we need to know about other aspects of her body and character: how slim is she? What kind of butt does she have? What does her pussy look like? What about her tits? Does she suffer from chronic diseases? Does she have a pleasant character?
Many more aspects…
This is obviously the case. My rating is based on what I can see of her. For all we know, she could have a horrible tattoo covering her entire back or miss a leg.
The chick in that video got laid off:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3_w5OElKpw
She still has a very good plan B, as discussed in the article. Now the question is if she manages to figure out that she has that option.