I’m heading back closer to home soon and leaving the city behind, at least for now. Wanted to outline some thoughts about banging whores and one of the misperceived pitfalls associated with it: Pros in general are only slightly more reliable than hooking up with non-pros based solely off of attraction. Allow me to explain.
I’ve hooked up with regular girls who are super reliable and usually on time, and who are willing to put up with a lot of shit and still put out. This isn’t generally the case, however. With whores you can rack up notches much more efficiently, but even then it takes a certain amount of practice getting these girls to come over. The issue is that you want to be careful not to get ripped off or in trouble with the law. I’m obviously talking about all this in the context that all of this is illegal and unregulated (not a brothel, though some chicks have pimps).
I’ve had regulars (whores) who have flaked only to receive a text an hour after the agreed upon meeting with lame excuses about how their dog suddenly had an allergic reaction and need stat medical care. You know, the kind of shit some chick you’re boning on the side would come up with. I’ve even had pros just go ghost. This goes without saying but do not put a deposit down of more than 10-20%, just move on. With pros you already know I generally avoid that procedure altogether because of the flaking issue. I’ve only had it happen once where a new pro took my deposit and blocked me, so I learned from that experience.
There is also the issue that a “verified” pro (whatever that means) is just some scammer in India trying to extort you out of money with threats of sending hitmen after you and exposing you to their family. This one made me laugh because I was using a fake number anyway and he thought he was slick by looking up who the number belonged to and coming back with a list of relatives and place of residence. I actually had fun trolling this guy before he gave up.
With the previous point in mind keep in mind that most pros use iPhones. If you are also using an iPhone you can put the number into a new text field and verify if it is or not. I usually just weed out android because they are either scammers or some time of illegal agency pimping out Latin/Cuban/Russian chicks. They’ll never send you the girl in the photos. I know this from experience and research. If it’s an iPhone you can decide whether or not you want to use your real number and facetime with them to get an idea of their validity. However, if the chick is not quite up to par or there is a language barrier and you decide not to proceed, then there is a chance that the pro will get mad and leave you a bad review on an escort app. Pros will usually check number they’re texting and see if there are any prior complaints, which are often bogus but it will affect your success rate. Almost never do these hoes leave good reviews about a client or act as solid references. I know this because a whore I laid with said, “you know you have bad reviews, right?” She then proceeded to show me the app and was gracious enough to leave one good review.
Another issue is that a lot of these chicks expect you to do most of the heavy lifting. For example, you’d best not have a one word or even one sentence introduction. It needs to make you sound safe and give a good amount of info up front about where you’re wanting to meet (don’t give your address up right away) and payment method. Don’t mention anything incriminating or use sex worker lingo. Just mention that you were impressed with their profile and would like to hang out for a half hour/hour or whatever at your place and give a general location of where you’re stationed, and that you have cashapp or zelle for gas money or something like that. The problem you’ll encounter here is that through all that you’ll be lucky to get a response along the lines of “yes” or “okay sounds good”. So, you’ll be forced to move things forward. You might inquire about facetiming and then book the chick if you like her. Even if they give you a deposit and hourly rate, they usually don’t provide payment options so you’ll be forced to probe for that information also. Once you’ve booked you can give your address and usually it’ll be fine, especially since you’re refusing to lay down big amounts of cash anyways.
The above point amuses me because when some pros are like this, and if you resort to lazy replies or expect her to move the transaction along smoothly, then they’ll get frustrated and think you’re jerking them around and block you while maybe leaving you a bad review. Often times pros will fein availability, meanwhile they’re setting up multiple appointments and just drop you because something better comes along.
Another thing to be aware of which I haven’t found a good strategy to mitigate is that some whores will get to your place and receive payment only to try and haggle you afterwards. I had one chick bring her duo buddy who I had refused to meet during the deal making process and insist that she stay in the living room while we messed around. I wasn’t worried about being robbed because I had a pet camera trained on her position in the living, so I reluctantly agreed. The whore then took payment and refused to do anything more than a handjob unless I “took care of her more”. The only way to really combat this is to have her whip out a titty and let you grope her or something before payment so you can confirm she’s not a cop, and then agree on terms explicitly before paying.
Also, avoid pros that use keywords like “party” in their profile because they will show up on drugs and probably have drugs on them. They’r super annoying to deal with and not very discreet.
Recently just had a regular offer me an uncovered BJ, which I refused. I did think about it for a second though. This is apparently pretty common especially in other parts of the world. The issue for escorts seems to be that their colleagues that offer bbbj have a competitive edge, which in turn coerces others to make similar compromises. This behavior is probably most common in the US among street walkers, but I’d never be interested in the bottom barrel whores.
It also just occurred to me that if an escort is ever arrested that her phone could well be used as evidence against her clients. It’d be wise to use a burner phone. I was at least smart enough to never discuss explicit sexual acts or use lingo when inquiring about transactional information. The only time this should really come back to burn you is if the escort was a minor.
This is a very insightful article! It just goes on to prove how volatile matters with women of almost any imaginable walks of life can be. To counter this, WYSIWIG situations should be preferred instead (brothel, walk-through brothel etc.) – if available of course.
During the past few months – being the hero that I am – I sacrificed my valuable time and money to conduct a psychosexual self-experiment with an almost shockingly off-the-road bent: To fuck a voluminous roster of genetically absolute *top* supermodel-quality whores of the highest available beauty in FKK sex clubs in Germany and Switzerland. And in an extensive way: One pussy at a time, and one orifice after another. I know, I know – and you are absolutely correct: It just sounds as ghastly and taxing as it actually might be. It truly has been a substantial sacrifice on my part for the overall betterment of humanity.
But the insights into the interactions with such women in such kind of situations as compared to similar (or otherwise coveted) women in real life are quite fascinating.
The combined insights will be released as a guest post for this blog of Sleazy’s. I hope to finish this quite in-depth and lengthy blogpost for the advancement of the cultural sciences soon. Stay tuned!
I’m convinced going the brothel route is the ideal way to go. You can circumvent a huge amount of the bullshit I imagine. I know places like SE Asia are popular destination and I can see the appeal, however, it’s so unregulated that the chance of encountering someone with an STD or a hidden appendage becomes a big issue. How is pricing in legit establishments with semi-model tier whores?
@ Pickernanny: Well, it simply depends on what you wish to gain from your interactions with women in the first place.
“Sexual satisfaction” and/or compatibility with women is never guaranteed, the probability is substantially higher with whores, but also depends on the sexual competence and overall self-confidence of the man. As weird as it may sound, but even if you pay for sex you still have to guide and “demand” the woman to service you the way you want and to have her attune to your frequency. In this regard the saying from Sleazy holds true with pay sex as well: “Cool guys get laid and always got laid.” But even with whores you still have to “demand” in a certain way. Most women are lazy and you cannot expect full consummate satisfaction even if you paid for it.
As far as pricing is concerned, I can only speak about German and Swiss FKK clubs and brothels. In Swiss FKK clubs the current pricing for 30 mins. of GF sex experience (vaginal fucking, sucking w/o condom, french kissing, licking & fingering the buttercup) is billed at the equivalent of EUR 150.-, one hour correspondingly for EUR 300. Extras such as anal, cum-in-mouth etc. (if offered) are individually negotiable.
In German FKK clubs the current pricing for 30 mins. of GFE is 100 – 150 EUR and one hour usually 200 – 300. Some super attractive girls go for the Swiss prices, but I’ve had excellent 1 hour sessions with super attractive girls for EUR 200 as well. For the overall calculations you must factor in the entrance fee of EUR 60 – 95 as well. The advantage of FKK clubs is that for the entrance fee you can stay in the venue for as long as you like, can enjoy the spa amenities and usually some selections of freshly prepared cooked food plus non-alcoholic drinks as well.
With non-filthy brothels my observation is that in some venues of “slightly less exclusive appeal” you can get 1hr of GFE sex for EUR 150.-, in venues with absolute top model quality girls one hour will set you back EUR 250 – 350, with extras on top if desired. There has been a noticeable price hike after the plandemic, though. In pre-plandemic times I clearly remember paying EUR 160.- for one hour of finest GFE sex with Bond girl quality whores, so the prices have almost doubled within a few years. This seems to defy traditionally known market forces of demand and supply, because post-plandemic there has been a slight drop in demand, but a stark increase in supply (i.e. many ehores in need for customers and their revenue). But this is an asymmetric market of course and the demand for hassle-free, on demand sex with hot, 18 – 30yo women is not likely to go away.
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I’ve had regulars (whores) who have flaked only to receive a text an hour after the agreed upon meeting with lame excuses about how their dog suddenly had an allergic reaction …
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It’s a normal thing to happen … if you’re scheduled let’s say 15 Min later and she already has a client at the door you can guess who gets priority – think about it, it’s a money making business, nothing personal. I select my clients the same way.
Regarding recurring clients she’ll chose the most likable client. no need to be hurt.
Also like in real life some girls will like you and do extra things for you, some will forget about the clock ticking, ask what your desire/fetish is and try to fulfill that, try to please you, they also sometimes can ignore or reject future clients just to be with you.
One thing i do to get this sort of treatment is choose the girls that seem to look like me, or have something in common be it eye colour, skin tone, hair colour- or overall facial likeness – by reading their body-language when i’m at their door, if i sense even the slightest feeling of discomfort i tell them i should be better get going and, that i’m sorry …and it works great… some will say sorry, you’re ok please come back.
With some I’ve even spend the night cooking and fking without extra money spent.
So guys read the girl when your in front of their door, look for any slight discomfort in their voice tone, body language and facial expression and directly address it.
Also this is not bulletproof, despite my experience with payed girls i sometimes get burned. For various reasons, reasons that don’t really deserve much attention.
Don’t stop if you get burned and treated like shit, just retrospect the last shitty interaction and you will learn so much just from 1(one) interaction.
@ Cris: This is an excellent comment. Thank you for your input!
I’m back home and was searching for pros in local relatively much smaller cities and the quality of ho is abysmal. Not to mention the prices are way worse for some reason. And all the upscale escorts tend to prefer working in NY and are high luxury (extremely expensive). Down in the Southwestern part of the US you could at least smash sexy illegals (Cubans/Latinas) for a reasonable price.
Conclusion: Do not indulge in prostitution in the US unless you are rich. Otherwise, it’s way too risky and expensive. There is also a high chance some of the illegal girls are being trafficked which makes the proposition extremely dangerous to the John. An Italian whore I sat with for a bit even detailed how when she was arrested in a sting she was promptly let go after they realized she was not a minor or being trafficked. She explained that the men get it much worse in these situations. In the state of Texas, for example, prostitution is an immediate felony.
Recommendation for US citizens: For the amount you will spend on a handful of hour long sessions, and assuming you have no obligations and can take off from work for a while, spend that money instead on a roundtrip plane ticket and spend a month whoring in the third world. If your funds aren’t as tight then consider parts of Europe.
Ultimate realization: I do not recommend anyone get into this hobby. It’s not really something you get out of your system and then move on. It becomes an addiction being able to order up a new hot young chick like a pizza. Also, the opportunity costs pile up.
I can heartily recommend lucid dreaming as a safe and cost-effective alternative here. The downsides however is that you’ll have to invest time and effort (and money if you want to go as far as invest in supplements) in actually getting good at the skill before you can get to the moolah, though it should be easier to learn than most other skills out there. (it’s certainly easier to learn than playing a musical instrument for instance!)
And, unless you’re a real natural at this or decide to dedicate your life and become a master at it (debatable if that’s even achievable for everyone. Genetics rear it’s ugly head once again..), you probably shouldn’t expect to be able to have fun or even get lucid every night. My personal best streak is 4-5 lucid dreams per week, but I can’t promise that this is achievable for everyone.
Alek’s mentioned having a diverse stream of “income” though at this. Paid sex, “free” (quotations on purpose) sex, and then LD sex. 3 days per week of LD naughty fun combined with all the other stuff should work out for the average reader here.
Look up Daniel Love on youtube for anyone wanting to give this a start.