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Hired a 22 year old Italian whore tonight. Chick was super chill and had a pleasant personality. She talked about how the business works and some of her experiences. Oh, and she had an amazing natural body with only a little heart tattoo. The only thing keeping her tits from being 10/10 were inverted nipples. Almost perfect body otherwise.
Also, she kept trying to get me to pay to have her friend come over too but I was just not willing to pay double. I only ended up paying for a massage and a blowjob, for which the service was outstanding. Meanwhile, Cheeky has probably banged a dozen more dirt cheap escorts.
Also, Cheeky was right about scams online. A lot of chicks who say they are independent are actually being regulated by an agency. I found this out the hard way when recently I had texted to have a girl come over and she looked nothing like her selfies or her purported age. I was like, “oh, who are you?” She went on to explain that I wasn’t even texting with her, but instead the agency who pretended to be her, then they just send her the details. But it was a total bait and switch. The chick had a nice body but looked Middle Eastern or even Jewish in the face. Then she tried to haggle the confirmed price by almost 50% saying that the asking price mostly goes to the agency and the rest would go to her. She tried to tempt me with her alleged amazing blow jobs skills and at that point I had to politely tell her no deal and see her out.
Here’s what I found out—99% of the time a real independent chick is going to be using an iPhone, if it’s an android then it is probably an agency. If she’s not using an iPhone I simply screen her out, and then she has to be willing to do facetime. Most real chicks actually want to do this anyway to help verify who you. From there I can get a better idea of how to proceed.
And this is why prostitution (or “sex work”, as apparently that comes off as less vulgar to folks..) should be 100% legal. We avoid this bullshit, and the escorts make their money. (or at least get a fair share if they have to work for an agency and not have to deal with extortion.)
Its a win-win for both parties as far as I can envision. So why is the oldest profession in the world even illegal (in most countries) in the first place? Are the elites worried that its going to lead to the collapse of society or something? That men won’t be enticed to work as hard (or have families) if sex is that readily available?
At least that’s what comes up at the top of my mind right now, but I don’t think it would really work that way. Dudes still very much crave validation (for better or worse) from the so-called “fairer sex”, so there would still be motivation for the average man to work his ass off to accrue status and resources. If not to attract a wife and have a family, then at least to consistently afford whoremongering.
I might be missing something though. There has to be a reason most societies today insist on prostitution (even going as far as making it one-sided legality in some places from what I’ve heard. Legal for prostitutes to provide services, but illegal for “Johns” to accept such services. however much sense such an arrangement makes..) remaining illegal or at least never fully legal.
This sounds like a horrible experience. What is worse, the fact that some agencies engaged in such business practices seems to indicate that they get away with it. I can imagine that plenty of men grudgingly accept the low-quality chick that was sent to them. Some may even pay the chick to go away and only few will have the balls, like you, to tell them that there will not be any exchange of money for services. Your observations on Android vs iPhone is telling. It seems that these agencies are run by men whereas women working as independent contractors do not want to be seen using an Android phone.
Good result Pickernanny 👍
She sounds like a good one. If she is an agency also ( ?) I would tell her I want to see her regularly , ask for ‘mates rates’ and get her private cell number. Most of them will be happy to work “ off the books” here and there with a respectful regular .
No cheap hookers for me atm, All free. got a bit of a rotation of fit cougars and curvy mummies going. Last night it was a PAWG w a Cute face, D rack and big curvy ass. We had a big session watching lesbian porn, using lots of lube , (my new thing) lots of lube, me tryna ass fuck her , her cumming hard using her vibrator with my dick in her mouth with the porn playing beside her head, and finally me fucking her reverse cowgirl squeezing her ass into a bubble butt and grabbing her big rack from behind whilst dirty talking her with “ that’s it baby, that’s it, gimme some of Dat Ass, come on take dat cock” (lol) etc. have to say it was a better session that I could get with a hooker. As the chick was going crazy for it. She said “thank you” at some point and I replied “that’s good say that again” and made her repeat it over and over throughout the end of session . 😂 pretty good!
Also i arrived a bit late to see her from hanging with a dude friend too long. She texted me “ the doors open I’m in the bedroom” so no chit chat bullshit. Pretty ideal hookup scenario all in all 👍
As an aside , re divorced moms and cougars etc (and this is not a joke)
I recently watched the stand up comedy on Netflix :’Ali Wong- Single Lady ‘ and she lays it all out re these women. Helped my ‘game’ tremendously better than any PuA -Lit bullshit course. For real.
Best’ game advice ‘ i could recommend for this niche of chick, and it’s raw AF how she delivers it all and gut-bustingly my funny imo.
Highly recommended watch for any dude 👍 👌
So in a nutshell re my dating life atm ..
*I’M*the hooker now 😆
The chicks pay me in gigs, dinners and a free bed at their nice flash houses.
@PN
Ps- how much $ was she and for how long?
If she was a real a (almost) ‘10/10’ I’m sure she was worth it,
Pps can u upload her pic and blur / black out her eyes or something.. I wanna see!
Cheers CJ
@Maou the harpies would scream about that more loudly than about abortion.
https://www.unz.com/aanglin/new-york-army-of-state-troopers-sent-against-noble-migrant-hookers/
The whole thing (and comments) are worth reading, but the gist is:
“Prostitution is illegal, because non-hooker women want it illegal. Why? Because of the same reason that I don’t own a cow; I can go buy milk, any time I want!
And, if men can go pay a woman for sex, no dating, no courtship, no ritual… then women, and their greatest asset, descend down to absolute market value, and non-hookers, REALLY don’t want that!”
@aj
Prostitution is legal in ten countries in Europe, and Belgium decriminalized it just a couple of years ago. It’s not that big of a deal over here.
That article’s thesis is incorrect btw. Prostitution has been banned in places since long before women voted, mainly for health and/or moral (usually religious) reasons.
Karl,
your argument is only partly valid. It is true that prostitution was banned due to health reasons. Arguably, religion was against it for the very same reason. The ultra-strict Victorians, for instance, came down hard on prostitution because filthy whores spread venereal diseases and for many there was no cure. This was a genuine public health issue. Today, on the other hand, these arguments no longer hold. STDs are not a serious issue anymore, and large parts of the United States outside of Nevada are not particularly religious. In my view, the main reason why prostitution is banned in most of the US is to keep men thirsty. Feminists hate that one weird trick that gets men sex, i.e. just paying for it whenever they have the urge.
@ Pickernanny
Pics or it didn’t happen!! Lol 😝
@pickernanny
Picture proof or it didn’t happen lol 😝
I wanna see!
Ps just to once again restate my position in my dating life now I’M the hooker. And the girls are my clients.
That’s right. I said it.
‘Flip the script’ as the PUAs used to say haha 😂
And @ Sleazy. Yes this is the situation re getting hookers online. Online sex is a breeding ground for con game it’s rife. I wouldn’t touch it with a Barge-pole.
@Sleazy
“Feminists hate that one weird trick that gets men sex, i.e. just paying for it whenever they have the urge”
Very good 👍 👏
I recall u used to drop that on the PuA debate back in the day to cut through the bullshit. As true today as it was then and forever will be 😆 maybe not so much in the USA tho. No wonder their bootcamps had so many attendees reflecting on it.
See what I did there? I brought that full-circle back to my favorite topic -PUA !haha.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AlbpcaHxV98
This channel is really eye-opening.
Chinese women join Western sisters in secluding themselves from men.
Hey Sleazy, PN, Maou and others,
A lifestyle question to pose for you guys.
Chatting to my best mate and confidante last night about my crazy dating life.
Floating to him my new ‘lifestyle idea’ to save money and increase my freedom and flexibility and general happiness.
As I spend on average 2-3 nights Per week staying over at various chicks houses atm ,
My idea was to sell my newish sedan car , and buy a cheaper & much bigger SUV / 4WD type vehicle that would double as a budget 4 nights per week bedroom on wheels 🤷🏻♂️
I could also book an Airbnb for 3 nights each for fortnight as my posher ‘rest accommodation’ when I get sick of sleeping in the Big SUV. ( I’ve been a backpacker , car sleeping in the Aussie climate can be uncomfortable to say the least)
By doing this I reckon I could pocket
> $4K on the car sale / trade in
>$650-$700 per month on rent ..
> skip living in shithole overpriced share houses with dickhead housemates and nosy landlords who take the piss and treat the house as their own anyway.
>plus park and sleep by the best beaches and neighbourhoods in my city.. I could literally wake up and have breakfast at an awesome flash posh beach cafe 2-3 times a week.
As long as I’m within driving range of my work.
(My work is 50% mobile and changing anyway)
It’s seems TOO good of an idea 🤔
The main risk is that I have kids. They don’t sleep over at my place so I could keep them busy some days outdoors for my visitations and bring them to an Airbnb for sleepovers other days. The biggest risk is my dragon of an Ex finding out about it … and possibly flipping and going for full access w kids and no visiting rights, but that’s 50/50 odds . She may bust me 3 months in and I promise to go back to a sharehouse or get my own apartment blah blah blah. And anyway…. Fuck her (lol)
Seriously I reckon I could save $1800 approx hard cash in bank per month and do that for 3 months at least. For me this is very good as I’m struggling to save anything with costs of child support rent and food .. and losing some casual work hours here and there now.
Opinions/ dissection/ pros and cons much appreciated !!!
Bit of an ‘off the grid’ idea tbh .. but I like the thought of it
Ps am I losing the plot thinking this way ? 🤷🏻♂️ 🤔
My German ex workmate and a finance manager friend gives me financial advice. He quoted me Warren Buffet stuff like “ it’s not how much ur earning but how much u can reduce outgoings and how much you can actually save per month” or somesuch. As we humans tend to spend to our means. I’ve found this to be true.
Good savings if a person can hammer down rent costs as it’s the biggest whack of living expenses.
And it’s very bad value for money in my city,
There’s a rental crisis since post covid here rents are ridiculous
I don’t think becoming a f-cking bum is the way to go to save money, man.
At this point, probably a consultation session with Aaron would be appropriate.
@Karl
Well I’ll still be working dude, and it’s only 3-6months, I think it could be an interesting experiment. Tbh to mulling it over .. I’ll probably get tired of it in 2-3 weeks and end up staying at the airBNB ongoing.
There must be a way to save big bucks on rent somehow…
I am not keen to go back to the corporate grind and rat race. Must be other options for more feeedom in life ?
Australia is a very expensive country to live in tbh.
Some random factoids re ‘interesting chick career stuff’ I’ve picked up from dating.
1 chick I met works for big Oil and Gas as a consultant, she makes close to $400k or so per year flying out to oil rigs teaching health shit to oil riggers . I joked to her I bet she also lets the cute young riggers fuck her as well. Haha. She denied this . No doubt about it tho.
I said I bet they are frothing at the mouth to have a decent looking fit cougar chick stepping out of a chopper on their rig and all look forward to her visits ! And she dresses accordingly no doubt about it.
2. Another chick works finance and previously for a big global beer brand in Holland. She was involved in that global Beer brand selling off their Russian arm of the business for €1 during the Ukraine war about a year ago I reckon,
That’s right . Sold all their breweries and associated biz for €1. The explanation was they could not be seen as a global brand to be profiteering from the conflict,
2 random factoids.
Ps My target nice these days for dating is
-older but still fit ,hot and fuckable financially successful women. Much easier to network with these women than with men I find. The women are eager to help me after I give them so much entertainment value and good sexytimes.
Men are much more closed off, for example I recently hit up a bunch of male manager friends for even a basic part time admin work and none could help me or even provide a connection who may. Useless!
That is all. CJ
I’m off to watch Kill Bill 1 & 2 now on a day off today 🏖 amazing movies in Tarantinos top 3 for me.