I have not written a lot about the legal challenges of esteemed PUAs on this blog, in contrast to my former blog on Blogspot. Of course, part of the reason is that the PUA scene is basically dead. It is also the case that after public backlash to maladjusted PUAs accosting women in public there are now a lot fewer people filming themselves getting rejected by women. The other day, though, I received an email that highlights rape denial by a PUA. It is reproduced below.
I contributed the guest post “Roosh Spends $6,500 per Lay” in 2014; it’s been a long time! Recently, I looked at Benjamin Rich’s posts at the reconstituted Rooshvforum.network. He runs the YouTube channel “Bald and Bankrupt”, and posted there under the handle “Vorkuta” and “The Fantasist”. His most most-liked post describes his rape trial.
I originally figured the girl accused falsely because she got blackout drunk and didn’t remember. But on rereading, the description is ludicrous.
I fell asleep on the sofa … woke at 7 … find the girl and my mate ( let’s call him John ) awake in my bed. “Jump in” the girl said with a smile. … After we banged her we were lying on the bed just chatting and she said something along the lines of “if I’d said no you’d have raped me anyway wouldn’t you!”. Laughing I said “oh yes of course, would have set you on fire too no doubt”, just banter, she was laughing, I never thought any more of it. …
Later in the day they came to my cell and told me they were taking me to the doctor for a DNA sample. … It was a female doctor and she asked me to lie on the bed as she was going to insert something into my urethra to take a DNA sample. At this point I started crying ( was that beta? ), I felt like I was being raped. I started telling the doctor that I was innocent, that she was not touching the penis of a rapist.
I waited in the pub next door for my mates to be released. An hour later they came out and we just sat there in the pub unsure what to say. At one point I said to them “did we rape her,we didn’t did we?” I had to ask because after 48 hours of being told you’re a rapist,that you did this despicable crime you start to lose sense of reality,you start to question your own memory,it’s a strange feeling of unease.
It strikes me as implausible that a girl invites a stranger into bed at 7:00 a.m. The DNA story is impossible. DNA samples merely require a cheek swab, not a urethral swab. Finally, I would not ask my friends and codefendants whether we raped anyone, I would ask why that crazy woman is lying! This whole story is fabricated. I am ashamed that I skimmed it too quickly to notice this before.
Good luck getting any Manosphere guys to admit it. I am sick of them.
In a follow-up message, the reader added:
The false rape paranoia on the manosphere forums really bothered me. The criminology literature shows only 2%-11% of accusations reported to police are false.
There was a disturbing study by a Virginia investigator who saved evidence until DNA technology become available. As I recall, a shockingly high percentage of convicted prisoners were later exonerated by DNA. But the problem was not false accusations. It was usually mistaken identification. For example, in one case, two brothers hitchhiked in opposite directions, and one was arrested and convicted for a rape by his similar-looking brother.
Also, most false accusations were completely fabricated, and there was no sex. This includes Brian Banks, Tawana Brawley, and the University of Virginia case featured in Rolling Stone magazine. The motive was often an alibi for an affair. It was occasionally money (Brian Banks) or sympathy (Rolling Stone case). But those idiots in the manosphere were telling young men to illegally film sex in case they were falsely accused. Bad information hurts men.
The manosphere forums had thousands of men posting, but almost no false accusations. All these men were supposedly breaking hearts across the globe! Benjamin Rich originally posted under “Vorkuta”, and changed his handle to “The Fantasist”. This was the one outstanding “real” case. And on rereading, it was obvious fiction. You can read his archived posts here. The other publicized case was Mike Cernovich’s. Here is his description.
Then again, if the defendant had been drunk: How could he have formed criminal intent? Think about it. If everyone is drunk, how can we say a woman was too drunk to consent; but that the man wasn’t too drunk to form intent? If everyone is drunk, then everyone should be presumably equally infirm. Feminists, however, do not want equality.
Thus, if a drunk man has sex with a drunk woman: The drunk man had the mental state to know he was committing rape. The drunk woman lacked the mental state to consent to sex. So, Cernovich’s defense if that it is okay for a drunk man to rape a drunk woman. I guess it is okay for a drunk mugger to rob a drunk victim, or to get drunk and kill another drunk. And Cernovich has a law degree!
I also recall reading “field reports” of PUAs overcoming so-called last-minute resistance, when in fact they were forcing themselves onto these women. I recall one guy writing about a woman who put up excessive physical resistance, and that it took all his strength to overcome it. There surely were some rather shady characters in this scene. Of course there are false rape accusations, but this does not mean that there are no guys out there who rape women.