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Is a Chad always a Chad? So do most women still consider guys who were Chads in their 20s as Chad in their 30s and 40s assuming the guys stay in decent shape (not sloppy or obese) and take care of their hair (ie if they are balding opt to shave it off or get a hair transplant)?
Or are they relegated to more of a provider type due to advancing age?
Likewise can a guy who is more of a provider type become a Chad through going to the gym and getting lean?
Are the categories of Chad and provider kind of set in stone in a woman’s mind?
The Expiry Date of Fine Wine
A commonly heard statement in our circles is that “women age like milk, and men like fine wine”. Partly, this is wishful thinking, but there is quite some truth to the matter. Let me break it down further. First, distinctly average men do not necessarily age particularly well, so at best you can say that men with above-average looks have the potential of aging relatively gracefully. Yet, the same is also true, albeit to a somewhat lesser extent, for women. I will discuss this in detail further below. Second, there is an upper limit with regards to male physical attractiveness as well. Sure, you can bring up Sean Connery or any other older male actor and point out that they look great in their late 50s or 60s, but let us not kid ourselves. Just compare Brad Pitt from Fight Club with the 2022 version of Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Surely, you can assume that any woman would be much more aroused by the former.
I think that most men decline considerably already in their 20s, and this even includes former Chads. If you work at a larger company, you have probably witnessed batches of men in their early 20s joining, and aging far beyond their years in a relatively short amount of time. Obviously, spending 40 or 50 hours a week warming an office chair, and an extra 8 to 10 hours commuting, in addition to hitherto unknown levels of stress, will not improve their health. The contrast to their relatively balanced life in high school or college, which allowed for plenty of time for sports, is quite stark.
The goal of this article is not to tell you that you are bound to rapidly decline in your 20s, far from it. However, it takes a lot of effort to stay in shape. This also includes foregoing various temptations such as habitual alcohol consumption, smoking cigarettes, or doing drugs. On that note, it is quite baffling how common weed has become, and even cocaine has entered the mainstream. None of this will help you with staying healthy and attractive, however.
Extending your Chad Years
Realistically speaking, your peak Chad years will last until your late 20s or early 30s, and if you have exceptionally good genetics, you may be able to add a few more years, but this is quite rare. As a guidance for younger men, I would encourage you to cash in your chips sooner rather than later. The women you are going to bang are likely not going to get any hotter once you enter your 30s. On a more personal note, I found that I still did really well in clubs in my mid-30s by virtue of looking about ten years younger than I was, but using my real age in online dating did not yield good results, simply because women filter by age. In a club or bar environment, or a social setting, looking younger than you are simply gets you past her preconceived notions of how old any guy she hooks up with should be.
Older guys who still regularly hook up with girls have the tendency to misinterpret why girls get involved with them. I know a few men who have been very successful professionally. They are now in their late 30s or early 40s, and some even get approached by women. If you asked them, they would tell you that this is because they stay in shape and dress well, but in reality, they attract women because of the imagine of financial success they portray. Sure, being in relatively good shape does help, and should they decide to let themselves go physically, they would surely do worse with women. However, their looks are not nearly the main reason why they get women. Primarily, women are interested in them because they make money, and still look reasonably attractive. The blind spots of those men are quite staggering, though. One of them may tell you that he recently parked his car, got out, and a woman in her 20s smiled at him. He then briefly spoke to her and got her contact details, and took her out on a date later. What he would not include in this story is that he drives a Porsche. Surely, knowing this makes you interpret this encounter much differently. Some other guy drives a big Mercedes and he used to invite women he barely knows on weekend trips, all expenses paid. This was before the scamdemic. Similarly, he does not want to acknowledge that women view him as a provider.
As you age, but do not want to settle down, your provider abilities will play an ever increasing role. You can visualize this even more drastically. If you are in your 20s and broke, women will not care about your dire economic circumstances if they find you attractive. They happily visit you in your flat-share, hop on your dick, and keep coming back. If you want to pull this off in your 30s, your appeal will be greatly diminished. In fact, you will be seen as some kind of loser, and this is even true for women who barely manage to make ends meet themselves. At a certain point, your life simply becomes too incongruent for women to accept you even as a short-term romantic partner. Living like a struggling artist and embracing the bohemian lifestyle has an expiry date. I happen to know a few such guys as well who never made it anywhere economically. They are in their 40s or 50s and still live in a flat-share or a studio apartment in a run-down building. Yet, even if they had made it to lower middle-class, they still would have a hard time competing for women because those who want to engage in random hook-ups go for younger guys and those who want to settle down are looking for a guy who is in a more comfortable position.
Going from Provider to Chad and Vice Versa
If you are firmly stuck in a provider role and want to turn into more of a Chad, I think your options are somewhat limited. The real-life Chads I know are pulling girls even when they are out of shape. In particular, I am thinking of a good friend of mine who is 6’5″. When he was quite overweight, women told him that he “looks like a bear”, and when he started hitting the gym, they were complimenting him on being lean. His overall success rate was not much different. Of course, you can improve your physical appearance within reason, and it will lead to more women finding you desirable. Yet, there is a limit. In particular, you will struggle if you are short. I think the only scenario where you can clearly improve is if you are morbidly obese. Otherwise, even hitting the gym will have not much of an effect, assuming that you do not pick up women on the beach or at a club where you get so excited that you take off your shirt. When you’re dressed, your (physical) frame matters a lot more than a bit less fat or a bit more muscle mass, and you are not going to make your clavicles wider by hitting the gym. This is a bit of a black pill, but it is important to not engage in any kind of delusional thinking that you can go from mediocre-looking to Giga-Chad by following some kind of five-step exercise plan.
I also think that women quickly put you into the Chad or provider category. Ideally, you are the Provider-Chad, but those guys are relatively rare. If she sees you as a provider, she may only ever have sex in a more transactional manner, albeit she likely will not make it explicit. Instead, she will have the least amount of sex she can get away with to rope you into a relationship. The guy above I mentioned who used to invite chicks to weekend trips sometimes did not even get laid this way, for instance. In contrast, if she values you for your looks, it does not matter if you do not have much money. A woman may, however, want to turn a Chad into a provider. I met a few such women who were really into me when I was in my 20s but could not quite stomach the fact that I was living in a flat-share and cared little about pursuing a career. There was one who, after what started out as a one-night stand, came back soon after with print-outs of job ads she thought I should respond to, and another, incidentally a woman my age who had an MBA and worked in business, set up some kind of four-year plan for me to get my life back on track. It was surreal. (In the end, I got my life back on track, but not in response to some chick dragging me into a particular direction.)
Fast and Slow Life Strategy Chads
In one of his recent videos, Edward Dutton discusses evidence for physical attractiveness of women in the context of fast and slow life strategies. As a quick review, fast live strategies entail fast sexual maturity and procreation, risky behavior, limited parental investment and, possibly, early death as a consequence of risk taking. Slow life strategies entail the opposite. Dutton made the point that anecdotally it seems to be the case that women who sexually mature faster and are more attractive in their teens than their peers often end up being relatively unattractive in middle age whereas women whose biology makes them pursue a slow life strategy may be less attractive in their teens but comparatively more attractive as they get older, the comparison obviously being their middle aged peers. Anecdotally, I think he has a point, but in my view those hot teenage sluts aging quicker could be due to their suboptimal lifestyle choices such as excessive partying, drugs, alcohol, makeup with toxic chemicals, and time spent in a solarium.
With regards to men, it could well be that the same phenomenon plays out. For instance, back in high school the biggest Chads were simply physically much more mature than the rest. Of one of them I know that his life went downhill very quickly. By his mid-20s he was an obese alcoholic with very unsteady economic prospects. This was the most extreme case, but there were others where I likewise observed that they seemed to be far ahead of their peers in terms of physical development but did not nearly look as attractive as they got older. In my case, I think I was only fully grown at the age of 20, and when I was 15 or 16, I looked quite frail compared to the Chads in school. On the plus side, I still look ten years younger than I am.
Putting this information in the context of this essay, I think that if you only reached your full physical maturity in your early 20s, you may indeed be able to move into the Chad category, provided you have good genetics. Hitting the gym and getting those newbie gains can make a world of difference. At that age, though, the provider aspect seems to be relatively unimportant as Western women normally do not want to settle down yet. Also, very few young men come from wealth and have access to their family’s riches, so I am not sure if this aspect is even worth discussing. However, the major point here is unaffected, namely that if your biology put you on the slow-life strategy, you may indeed be able to become a Chad in your 20s, even if girls overlooked you in your teens.