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Open Thread 2018 (#6)

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102 thoughts on “Open Thread 2018 (#6)

  1. Aaron, what’s your point on matriarchy?

    I came along the small Chinese group called the mosou, who practice a sexual interaction called walking marriages:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo

    „When a Mosuo woman or man expresses interest in a potential partner, it is the woman who may give the man permission to visit her. These visits are usually kept secret, with the man visiting the woman’s house after dark, spending the night, and returning to his own home in the morning.”[14] After the birth of the child, the man has no moral, cultural, or legal obligation to take care of the child“

    Sounds like paradise: Men have mostly no rights, are free, not bound on any obligations, can develop they’re knowledge….

    1. Paradise for chads you mean? The reason that matriarchies fail is that men who don’t reproduce have no motivation to contribute to society. And that’s most men in a matriarchy. It’s a system where women only give access to the top 1% of men, and the rest go MGTOW.

  2. Aaron! I have a few questions.
    1. When it comes to 18-35 year-old women, which age bracket of women lend themselves easily to one-night stands/sex on the first date/casual encounters? Clubs and bars are known to facilitate sexual encounters. However, the club scene is mostly made up of a young crowd between 18-25 year old women. Does this mean that this particular age (18-25) bracket of women lend themselves easier to sex, or would older women lend themselves easier to sex? Which age bracket is ideal for casual encounters? And why?

    2. Is going to strip clubs better over a mainstream club/bars for sex if it means paying strippers? It’s a good way to hook up with these girls that you would see at mainstream clubs. And its much easier to hook up with them.

    3. How can older men 30 plus attract younger women 18-23 years old for long term relationships? Does it narrow down to money and status and how you meet (context) them? People are quick to say that age is just a number. However, as I have gotten older I have realized that age does matter. At one point or another, as men keep ageing it will become more difficult to attract these types of women. Girls in this age bracket are at their prime of their life and are in demand, which means there’s a lot of male competition who are seeking these types of girls.

    Your input would be greatly appreciated it. Thanks…

    1. I can speak to number 3. Getting such girls for relationships is easy when you have status and meet them in a context where you have the status.

      For me personally, getting them to only be casual is the difficult part. But’ll report back when I lose some weight and get lean again.

      P.S

      If you want detailed answers from Aaron you might want to schedule a consultation.
      http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/consultations/

    2. However, as I have gotten older I have realized that age does matter.

      It makes a bigger difference for casual stuff… Because in short-term mating (fuckbuddies, ONS, etc) girls prioritize looks. And your age is part of your looks. It’s a much lesser factor in relationships.

      If you’re notice chicks treating you much worse due to age, you’re probably communicating “I just want to pump and dump you”… They don’t discriminate as much towards older guys if the guy is communicating “I’m interested in finding a relationship partner”.

    3. Alek: you said “Getting such girls for relationships is easy when you have status and meet them in a context where you have the status”.

      Doesn’t this get much more difficult as you get older, to have status in a social circle with attractive young women? For example, I would imagine a 35-40 year old guy would have difficulty being accepted as part of a hip club scene. The only thing that comes to my mind for an older guy is in a business context, but going after women you work with seems like a risky idea these days.

      I see a lot of “red pill” type of advice say that a mans sexual market value increases up to age 35, and then plateaus for another decade or so (assuming he keeps in good shape and has a decent career, of course; not the usually guy who lets themselves go). I would like to believe that, but it seems like wishful thinking to me.

    4. @Conrad;

      This is where I might disagree with everyone here.

      Men with a lot of status and also money can get laid well into their 40s even in a FWB or ONS context and not just in relationships. Unless if they are extremely ugly. The idea that you can’t get ONSs with money is a bad one particularly because its untrue.

      However, the guys who can archive that level of money and or status are highly rare. $10m+ in the bank and you might just start to see the light. That’s just about the edge of things.

      However most people won’t reach that level of success and will instead marry some warpig or go MGTOW.

    5. Frederick: (Does this mean that this particular age (18-25) bracket of women lend themselves easier to sex) No it means older women can’t complete with the younger girls for chad’s attention in nightclubs. And when they have to watch the younger girls getting all the attention and free drinks. And now the doorman won’t let them skip the waiting line anymore. Suddenly the club isn’t that fun anymore.

  3. Two clarifications.

    Warpig is any woman who is not particularly hot to any woman that is just plain old ugly fat and has a personality of a feminist.

    Quote”I would imagine a 35-40 year old guy would have difficulty being accepted as part of a hip club scene.”EndQuote

    You bet he would. But that’s probably not where he’d meet his women anyway.

  4. Frederick: (2. Is going to strip clubs better over a mainstream club/bars for sex if it means paying strippers? It’s a good way to hook up with these girls that you would see at mainstream clubs. And its much easier to hook up with them.) Depends on the club. But if your only goal is to get laid. (And you don’t enjoy the strip or nightclub) Why don’t you call an escort if you’re willing to pay anyway?
    Personally i only enjoy the more exclusive G clubs from time to time. And i almost always walk out with a girl. But i don’t visit the G club to get laid. I like the the vibe of the place. There are more easy and cheaper ways to get laid. An escort is cheaper for sure than the clubs i visit. The club however is a experience in itself. And a great way to have a fun night out with friends. Or get some bisness relations softened up a bit.

    1. Many lessons to be learned.
      1 Never trust a woman.
      2 Never trust anyone with your sperm.
      3 Never expect justice if a woman commits a crime.
      4 Men have no reproductive rights.

      This guy should sue the woman instead. And file criminal charges for fraud. (not that it would make a difference.) Other option would be immigration to an other country outside the western world. Just pack his bags and leave without a trace. This gynocentric system will never let him win in court. So why waste money on lawyers. Better use the money to start a new life somewhere else. Give the finger to the woman and the system.

  5. What do you guys think about Grey hair? I’ve heared quite a few women say that they think it looks good on a man. So my guess is that it’s mostly An individual thing? For some guys it also looks really good.

    I’ve thought about dying my hair, but I don’t have much experience with it.

    I’m 29 at thé moment, but Grey hair runs in the family. I’m probably 50% Grey already.

    1. I have a few grey hairs myself. That number has been steadily increasing for about ten years. To me it’s a non-issue. In fact, I think that a full head of gray hair is attractive on a mature man who is in good shape.

  6. @Alek Novy
    You said “….in short-term mating (fuckbuddies, ONS, etc) girls prioritize looks. And your age is part of your looks. If you notice chicks treating you much worse due to age, you’re probably communicating “I just want to pump and dump you”…

    1. How does this play in the context of party environments like Las Vegas; Cancun Mexico; and Ibiza?

    2. Does this mean that guys who are 30 plus are going to have a difficult time attracting girls who are between the ages 18-24 for a one-night stand in these particular party environments (Las Vegas; Cancun Mexico; and Ibitizia)?

    I agree with Conrad that certain women particularly younger ones will not be very accepting of older men clubs when the majority of the crowed is young. And places like Las Vegas and Cancun Mexico for spring break tend to cater to young adults in the night life arena.

  7. Nobody said anything about guys having “a difficult time” contrary to what reading challenged dudes like Don would imply. It’s all relative.

    It just means that your 35year old self will find it less easy to get lays than your 25 year old self all else being equal. But the world is a lot more complex than “It’s easy”, “It’s difficult”. It depends on so many factors

    For example a male model with a fitness magazine cover body will see no difference in getting casual lays at 35… It’ll feel just as easy as it did at 25… maybe even easier due to the experience.

    1. It just means that your 35year old self will find it less easy to get lays than your 25 year old self all else being equal.

      And assuming you’re the average guy, hence the male model example beneath as an exception. Whether it will be “difficult”, “moderate” or “easy” depends on way too many factors.

      Now your Cancun question brings up a good point

      If I really think about it… the sluts who are responsible for 95% of all casual sex on the planet… they don’t seem to differentiate much between a 25 year old and a 35 year old penis.

      I think it might be just that it “feels more difficult”, but it might be a false negative. The slut who would have jumped on your cock at 25 is still going to jump on your cock at 35.

      It’s the other girls who create a false impression. It’s the girls who are anti-casual sex that reject more harshly when you’re older. If you offer this kind of girl casual sex and you’re 35 she’s more likely to be like “what are you trying to do old man!”… But she would have rejected your offer when you were 22 as well…

    2. I think what changes is that you have to be more strategic in your 30s. You can’t be as crude and blunt in your 30s as in your 20s and get away with it. I mean the sluts will like the crudeness as much as they liked it when you were 20-something. But the other chicks will try to inflict that societal shaming and punishment. So that’s another thing to consider.

      I’m guessing a place filled with sluts trying to get laid (like ibiza/cancun) might have better percentage of chicks who respond the same to you regardless of age. Coz to sluts it doesn’t seem to be a big factor. They’re flattered when you offer penis anyway.

  8. @Alek Novy
    On a final note, so should men (30 plus) be more or less sexually aggressive with 18-23 year olds in seeking one night stands, casual encounters? The only problem I have encounter with girls is that some girls complain that I’m to aggressive (whatever that means???). To me, they are just hypocrites. Meaning, that the woman that I am being sexually aggressive with will complain about me while they will be sexually aggressive with another guy (sometimes this other guy is not even good looking). What gives???

    Also you said, “…It’s the girls who are anti-casual sex that reject more harshly when you’re older. If you offer this kind of girl casual sex and you’re 35 she’s more likely to be like “what are you trying to do old man!”… But she would have rejected your offer when you were 22 as well…” My question is, how should I or men approach these types of girls. Personally, I feel that a lot of girls are plain hypocrites. They’ll complain that you’re old while fucking some other random guy who is not half as attractive as you are.

    1. Dunno, depends on preferences. If you don’t care about being labeled the old creep in your circles, be crude…

      If you care about not being “the old creep”… consider mastering subtlety… This is where you communicate sexual interest through hinting, flirty eyes, innuendo and leave all the escalation for when you’re alone.

      That’s a good quick summary of this method. Do zero physical escalation until you’re one-on-one… then do the physical escalation. But if you show zero sexuality won’t she be like “woah where did this come out of”… She will… which is why you have to be sexual from the start (without actually escalating)…

      Sounds like a paradox, but it’s not, just an advanced skill… That’s the tricky part, you have to be sexual, without physical escalation… It’s hard to describe… if you meet guys like this you’ll know what I’m describing. But I don’t know if it can be described in text.

    2. It’s hard to describe… if you meet guys like this you’ll know what I’m describing. But I don’t know if it can be described in text.

      These guys are masterful at being all charming and such… nobody ever accusses them of hitting on girls… because from aside it looks like a friendly conversation… yet the whole time they are indeed being sexual, and when they say “let’s go to my place”, the chick accepts going to his place, fully knowing it’s about sex.

    3. Re Alek’s “being sexual without escalating”:
      It happens mostly in the eyes, combined with a relaxed state.
      Do you remember the “keep your frame” from PUA times?
      It’s kinda like this: You keep a long (but friendly) eye-contact (by the way, if you pay attention to usual conversations, people look often kind as re-assurance, but not for a long time, say many times half a second). And then you look down to her tits, for a long enough time that she gets it (and in a moment where she will “catch” you). Then you look back in her eyes and KEEP THE FRAME, i.e. you say between the lines “yes, I am that dude who looks at your tits and is fully calm about it, cuz that’s who I am, a sexual guy.” Now, the part where most guys fuck up about staring at her tits is a) they stare at them trying to not get caught and b) when they get caught, they start being nervous about it like a little kid getting caught lying.
      I think where naturals win is, they are full of some hormones or whatever that make them give a fuck about showing such blunt interest. If your heart starts to beat higher when you put your cards on the table in such ways, then you have two options: 1. start meditating or 2. cheat and take phenibut, as it will reduce your reactivity, enlarge your pupils and relax your facial muscles. I think it’s clear that long term your choice should be to meditate, as getting better at pulling chicks is just a spill-over effect of many other positives. And from experience, taking phenibuut over an extended time, even just on week-ends, is not a good thing.
      One more “trick”: Let’s assume you figured out that she’s down to fuck WITH YOU (read: she finds you attractive): Where I used to screw up, is that I tried to be sneaky about it sorta like trying to sneak my way into her pants. This obviously is not a state that’s very relaxing. What helped me was to remind myself the following: “She knows very well what’s up”. Then the question only becomes “how do you play the game” and not “what game are you playing”.
      But yeah, it’s in the eyes and in your tone (speed of talking). Try one time to go out when tired, you’ll see how you have no energy to run away from eye-contact and boob staring.
      But beware, the line between being a creep and sexual openness without words is a thin one.

    4. Taking this a bit further:
      To a large degree, I believe that human interaction is about tension.
      Can you hold tension? – That’s the question.
      For her, if you build up sexual tension, it’s uncomfortable, too, but she will test you if you can hold that tension. And if you can’t than she will gladly relief herself from it by making a a joke about you or she will call you names or whatever (turn to her girlfriends to bring them in on the action of mocking you). That’s one side of it.
      The other side is, that if you can prove that you can keep the tension, she will submit. Do you remember the one teacher at school who was a strict asshole, but a lot of the students liked him and actually became good in his subject? Didn’t they also kinda submit to his rhythm?
      He kept the tension. In contrast there’s the teachers nobody takes serious because they act tough but there is no follow-through after they build up some tension – they get slaughtered by the class.

      So when she realizes that the (sexual) tension you built up is something you are going to hold, then you can take it further.
      Now mind you, the “I accept you jacking up the tension” is something she has learned from her father, who set the template for this kind of dynamic. You will find some rebellious bitches who will give you a very hard time in trying to get you to reduce tension (hence discredit yourself as it’s you who built it up initially) because they learned that that’s how they get what they want from their dads (i.e. they learned that if they bitch around long enough, their dad will submit to them). My advice: Stay away from those, these are crazy bitches and you don’t want to stick your dick in crazy. They also have a very low resistance to frustration – just stay away lol.
      Maybe that’s another thing to keep in mind: You do your thing, but at the end if your approach makes her give you a really hard time then you just clash too much with an unhealthy template laid out by her father then there’s nothing you can do about such incompatibility. With time, your screening becomes better and you pick up subtle clues even before talking to her to determine if you can apply your game or not.

  9. Aaron, you say in the preface to Sleazy Stories II that you spent most of 2009 partying and pulling girls. What was your source of income at the time that made this possible? Apologies if that’s too personal a question.

  10. “I think where naturals win is, they are full of some hormones or whatever that make them give a fuck about showing such blunt interest”

    Anxiety level is highly genetic. Some guys are calm naturally, like Sleazy. With meditation, they just become unfazed. For others, even meditation won’t help. Boozes, drugs or other things may get them start.

    Generally, though, for guys who don’t have acute problems with anxiety, then it’s just plain experience. The more sexual experience you have, the more comfortable you are around the opposite sex. The guys who are called “naturals” , in my own experience, are those who are already good looking (height, facial symmetry, etc). They have far more females coming at them, reacting positively to them, so they read female cues far better than average guys.

    1. “Anxiety level is highly genetic”

      Exactly!

      MAOA/MAOB is not only said to be responsible for more violence in blacks but for more stress resilience, i.e. lower levels of anxiety.

    2. A great scientific (yet fun and interesting) overview on this topic is “Social intelligence” by Daniel Goleman. Everyone should read it. Basically it goes into like 99% of the topics we talk about here, from a science perspective.

      Including genetic basis of anxiety levels, introversion-extroversion and all that other stuff.

  11. @Alex,
    I have a question about hypergamy. If women are hypergamous, how is it that some women are attracted to, and tend to marry or settle into relationships with guys who are losers who have nothing going for themselves? I’m baffled by this. I have witness countless of women who are physically attractive and settle for some loser who is unable to provide. A lot of women often marry within their own socioecomic or trade up. So, how is it that some women will settle for some dead beat, and refused to trade up? Sometimes these women wont even go out with a guy regardless how much status and money he has, and will settler for some dead beat. What gives???

    Lastly, what gives with women who are attracted to the so-called bad boy? I don’t understand that social dynamic. Women often complain that their boyfriend (aka bad boy) treats them like shit, however, if I were to treat that same women like shit, she would tell me to go fuck off while accepting her bad boy abusive behavior. What am I missing?

    1. “Lastly, what gives with women who are attracted to the so-called bad boy? I don’t understand that social dynamic. Women often complain that their boyfriend (aka bad boy) treats them like shit, however, if I were to treat that same women like shit, she would tell me to go fuck off while accepting her bad boy abusive behavior. What am I missing?”

      Simple – in her eyes his SMV is higher than yours. (whatever criteria she applies)

  12. Aaron, remember our little exchange on neural networks/deep learning for the financial markets?
    I found an interesting blog, If you want to have a look. You might find it interesting.
    http://www.financial-hacker.com/deep-learning-systems-for-bitcoins-part-1/

    His mini series on “building better strategies” is quite interesting (although I don’t understand half of it, but from the practical perspective it makes a lot of sense regarding model based approaches).

  13. @Alex,
    This is just another example of feminist complaining about male patriarchy. There are endless of cases of women who go on dates with men, expecting the man to pay 100% of the time, and have the audacity to tell men not to expect sex in return cause she is not a hoe. There is no shortage of women doing this all over the world who have no real interest in men. Where did the idea of men must pay originate from? The Gilded Age? Also, where did the idea of 3 sequential dates must occur before mating occurs originate? There are so many women who are serial daters who actively go out on multiple dates purely for a free meal. And, apparently, its wrong for men to dine and dash. Where these women upset cause he didn’t put out? Women want equal rights, how about paying for dinner. Its only a story when a guy does it cause “Women are the Victims”. Even worse the restaurants are acting like White Knights and Beta Males.

    1. There are even women who use tinder to order a handyman. They have no interest in dating them at all.They look at profile’s for a man that’s likely to be able to fix stuff. They ask him to come over. And when he arrives they ask him to fix the sink or whatever. After he’s done they ask him to leave. No date, no sex, no nothing. Just a free handyman. They think it’s hilarious to do that to a man.

    1. It’s not for you. First, it’s a site primarily for men. Second, it’s for people who are inquisitive enough to click on the “about” tab and who do not require to be spoon-fed.

  14. I’m sorry if I abused this site. I assure you, that wasn’t my intention. I just want to learn about you guys. The Toronto bus attack sort of brought me here. I know you wouldn’t condone that, but I was just curious of how sites like these work. I honestly mean no disrespect. It’s a purely academic endeavor. Feel free not to respond if you’re uncomfortable with that, or you can redirect me to a different thread if necessary.

    1. Oh, it’s an academic endeavor! That may explain why you didn’t browse my blog and deduced yourself what it is for. For an “academic” like you, a first question would be: Does the “About” page of this blog correctly reflect its content? It does not fully do so as it is based on my old website. I’ve branched out, discussing the wider societal context of sexual relations. I’m also discussing more about women than how to get them to spread their legs for us guys. This is why the verb “getting” in the title of my blog has a two-fold meaning, “understanding” and “seducing”. Surely, an “academic” like you does not need such explanations, so please accept my apology in case I insulted your towering intelligence.

    2. I never said I was smarter than you, nor did I say I was an academic. I run ever now and again, but I wouldn’t consider myself a runner. I write reports every now and again, but I wouldn’t consider myself a reporter. If you wish to better represent this community, let’s be more cordial. May I proceed?

    1. Why do we need to have a stance on it? There is no evidence that that guy read my blog. Even if, how is this even relevant? To give your brain a bit of a workout: Rurik Jutting murdered several prostitutes in Hong Kong. He is a graduate of the University of Cambridge and worked as an investment banker for Bank of America Merrill Lynch. How do his actions implicate the University of Cambridge in particular and higher education as well as elite higher education in? Further, how do his actions implicate his former employer and the investment banking industry in general? In case you can’t figure out what I’m aiming at: Do you realize how stupid your question is?

    2. ” this community”

      I wasn’t aware this is a community. I’d more likely describe it as a lose get-together of regulars discussing either topics Aaron kicks off or topics which readers/commenters kick off in the “Open Thread”, which again might inspire (if I may use this word) Aaron to write blog entries.
      I believe most of the people here don’t know each other beyond this webpage.

      I have quite a bit of an issue with the statement because it labels readers/commenters in a way similar to the “left/right” labeling. First of all it’s a cheap way of arguing and second, I’d say that people here agree on as many things here as they do disagree.

  15. He didn’t murder in the name of Merill Lynch or Cambridge. The driver in Toronto stated on Facebook just before the killings, “The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys!” Does this community condemn taking this ideology to the extremity of murder? It’s a yes or no question.

    1. 1) We’re not incels. Plenty of us get tons of pussy, and among those who don’t, they deliberately do so because they are fed up with women. You’d be surprised how common it is that guys who have had a lot of sexual partners and who do very well for themselves just don’t want to bother with your kind anymore.
      2) Even if your statement is true, it is irrelevant as the “incels” are not some kind of hierarchical organization. That guy does not represent this demographic.
      3) May I remind you how the mainstream media reacts whenever a muzzie runs over a bunch of infidels? They are all quick to claim that it “has nothing to do with Islam”, even if links to Islamist terrorist organizations have been found, and surely a chant like “Allahu akbar” is just a random collection of phonemes that has likewise nothing to do with Islam. Further, even when a group like ISIS claims responsibility for a terrorist attack, it “has nothing to do with Islam.” I’m a bit baffled by all of this. When a devout Islamist kills a bunch of infidels, it has nothing to do with Islam, but when some white guy supposedly makes an isolated statement on incels, there must be a strong and irrefutable connection not just to that subculture but to any non-mainstream blog that has a predominately male audience. Surely, there must be some kind of double standard, but I can’t quite put my finger on it because I’m just a stupid white male. Could an “academic” as smart and outspoken as you possibly enlighten me? I’d be eternally grateful to you.

  16. @GMoney I doubt that he was even on this site. The only link that I would assume he had was the ideology.

    1. Would you please summarize what “incel ideology” consists of, in your opinion? Also, please let me know why you think my site caters to incels.

  17. On the Muslim front, I tend to side with people like Sam Harris. I don’t think that it’s a religion of peace, and I don’t condone the fundamentals of the religion. You won’t find me on the far left. We can agree on your 3rd point. Let’s not abandon our civility so soon.

    The ideology that I speak of is the subjugation of women. Does this community consider men and women equal?

    Lastly, I don’t think this site caters to incels. It caters more to those who have a hard time with stable women. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    1. This community acknowledges that there are fundamental biological differences between men and women. This is firmly established by science, but disputed by pseudo-disciplines such as Gender Studies or Education.

      I don’t think we have a problem with stable women at all. The contrary is true, we dislike mentally unstable women.

    1. LOL. The mainstream is of the opinion that women are superior to men, and when they are not, it’s due to the “patriarchy” suppressing them.

    2. “Does this blog primarily teach biology then?”

      You know, you could also actually READ the blog instead.

    3. “You know, you could also actually READ the blog instead.”
      No neutral… Reading it constitutes work.

    1. The hope of this blog is to make mainstream news on genders become so worthless that hardly any guy with a dick care to listen.

    1. You’re very welcome to cite me as Aaron S. Elias. Besides, you’d have to properly attribute your sources anyway, so not citing any of the people who contribute to this site would be a breach of academic honesty.

  18. I’m in uni and need to write a report next semester. It could be this topic, but there may be better things to write about.

    1. Sophia: This isn’t a real community with a fixed ideology. There are many people here from many different communities and many different ideological ideas. Just a place where mostly guys talk about stuff.

    2. The only link with the incell guy here would be the use of the term Chad’s. And it’s not a term that’s only used by some communities. It’s a pretty common term these days.
      Asking if people condemn the actions in toronto is stupid. Asking random people at the bus stop would be just as relevant. You will probably find more incell guys there.

    3. Sophia: Tip! Most male feminist are incell! Maybe ask the feminist organisations if they are condemning the Toronto attack?

  19. Let’s both retain our anonymity. You will be the only source that I cite unless someone else gives me permission to cite them.

    1. You don’t need permission to cite someone. The exception is when someone agrees on having a conversation “off the record”, the content of which you may either not cite at all or only anonymously.

    1. I’m looking forward to it, even though I don’t think you’ll follow through. On a side note, a few years ago someone discussed some of my views, and two others, if I recall correctly, in a Bachelor’s thesis. I have a copy somewhere on my hard drive, but the last time I checked, that student didn’t make his work publicly available.

  20. “I don’t think we have a problem with stable women at all. ”
    Even the most stable women are nowhere near as stable as men.

  21. Honestly, I’m not sure if I will write about this subject. There are bigger things going on in the world. I mean, I could write about Trump pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal, skip the questions, and make just as good of a grade. The problem is everybody writes about stuff like that. Few people even know this culture exists. Aside from that, I’m curious. May I continue to ask questions? Anybody is welcome to respond, by the way.

    1. At this point I don’t know whether to laugh or cry because you are so incredibly meek in your behavior and attitude. You can ask anything you want, but you can’t expect much cooperation as long as you don’t bother to make an effort. Also, you certainly aren’t in a position to tell people that they are welcome to respond or not. They all are, even if you may not like it. You don’t create any rules on this blog.

  22. Noted, Aaron.

    Would this community consider itself part of the alt-right?

    Side note: I have heard objections to even calling the people on this site a community, but it seems to be, by definition. If there is a term that you guys would prefer I use, please let me know.

    1. Labels are generally a symptom of intellectual laziness. There is no “alt-right”, but merely a collection of individuals of which some may agree on some points and disagree on many others. The argument of people like you who want to slap a label on others normally develops along the following lines: X is part of group A, Y is part of group A as well. Thus, X shares some (or all) beliefs of Y.

      How would you define the alternative right?

  23. I generally let the side being defined to define itself. If I am to give a definition, I would have to default to a Wikipedia article. If this group wishes not to be associated with that label, I shan’t consider you part of it.

    Does this group postulate a hierarchy between or among the sexes as a result of evolution?

    1. Are you for real? If you want us to engage with you, how about you present something resembling an argument? Your yes/no questions are just ludicrous. Imagine you wrote a paper on a dead author. How would you handle that? That’s right, you’d have to read his works first and think about them. How about you do this with my blog with its hundreds of posts and thousands of comments? Read a little, think a little, and then update us on your thoughts. We value stimulating conversation.

  24. I’m not presenting an argument, Aaron. I’m asking direct questions and expecting answers that best present your views. I’ve read some of this site, but I don’t want to draw conclusions without asking you. If you want to dodge my questions, I will leave you alone.

  25. Is Sophia for real? I mean if you want to have a serieus interview with an author doesn’t it make more sense to contact him privately by email?

    Just look at all this pointless back and forth!

    Aaron, are you sure Jon hasn’t returned to the forum?

    1. The Open Thread exploded to like 90+ comments due to her mental/verbal diarrhea so far, I think we have more interesting things to discuss.

  26. Alright. I guess I’ll head back to my safe space.

    For real though, I appreciate the conversation. You’ve been very hospitable to me.

    Take care,
    Sophia

    1. @Sophia:

      Only thing I would add about the van attack…how come after a few weeks, the only “proof” and citation they have for motive is one facebook post on an otherwise inactive Facebook account of the driver?

      It’s a LOT easier to say the motive is a woman-hater who couldn’t get a date. Then, you have justification to fund BS ministries like the Ministry of women (https://www.ontario.ca/page/ministry-status-women) and all sorts of other shit to talk about the “patriarchy” oppressing women.

      Like it was said before, I’m sure if the driver was Muslim and said Allah Akhbar, there would be a whole different narrative and talk about how one should not link the driver to the religion.

      Whereas, here, it is OK to link one FB post to some incel group and connect that as the driver’s motive.

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