The Open Thread: January 2017 (Part II)

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88 thoughts on “The Open Thread: January 2017 (Part II)

  1. I wrote this in the first part of January’s open thread but I might as well write this here.
    Alek what you said about the 1-20 level range is crazy enlighting to me. I am thinking back to the girls I banged this year and they all made these little moves on me, without me noticing. I have a question though: as I work in a bar in my college, all the chicks that are hanging around come to order stuff. Some are openly flirting with me and others are a little more subtle. But I am on the spotlight since I am the only one behind the bar. So my question is, how should I behave with a chick without appearing flirtatious to the other girls ? I figured out I am hitting on girls too hard and other girls become disinterested in me, or at least show way less interest.

    1. It’s simple. You have it easy. If there are “other girls watching” that works in your favor.

      What you’re doing right now is:

      – Show level 7 interest to girl A
      – Girls bcdef lose interest

      Just do this

      – Show level 3 interest to girl A, and a kind of “I could do level 4, but that’s your job, you’re pursuing me, as are all these girls watching”

      – If there are really other girls watching, she will feel the pressure to fill in the space and do levels 4-5… the trick is to “wait for it” and let her do it

      – Act like you’re begrudgingly accepting level 4-5, like “if you insist, ok let’s go to level 5”, like she’s the one pursuing you… you’re accepting level 5, not initiating it

      – The other girls are watching you being pursued by a girl, that makes them pursue you too, so they’ll jump levels faster and you can do the “if you inssist” act on them as well.

      It’s hard to explain in words, but try it out and see what happens.

    2. You might ask:

      “But what if she doesn’t initiate level 4”. That’s easy, just go and initiate level 3 on all of these girls. Don’t stick to one girl. Go around giving girls the “opportunity” to start the pursuing by giving all of them level 3s… Just be patient and stop yourself from the inclication do 4-5 yourself. Eventually one of these girls will feel the pressure and raise the stakes. She will initiate level 4-5. This will encourage the other ones too.

    3. p.s.

      This advice is predicated on the notion that you really have these other girls watching and you want to give all of them a chance.

      You can always just do the standard method of focusing on one girl and taking it to the logical end. You have to make that call. Is she receptive enough that you want to put all your eggs in this basket?

    4. You can always just do the standard method of focusing on one girl and taking it to the logical end. You have to make that call. Is she receptive enough that you want to put all your eggs in this basket?

      – Are there no other girls in the vicinity or you don’t mind “putting them off” by focusing on her…

      – Is she such a “sure thing” that you don’t mind going obvious and fast on her, and losing out on other potential girls watching from the side… etc etc…

    5. Again, very insightful!
      In the context I definitely don’t want to put my eggs in one single basket, Ive done it before and it’s not worth it. The girl comes everyday at the bar and little by little, as I get attached, she gets detached. Happened with 6 of them in year 2016.
      It is interesting to learn that I can turn this into an advantage (or pro, pardon my english).
      As to a reputation, is there a way to turn this into an advantage too ? Im considered the ultimate fuckboy of my college, which apparently stops many girls to accept a fliratious relationship with me, they cut it short.
      Besides, it is crazy how good your understanding of women is. It really motivates me to initiate contact with as many chicks as possible.

    6. Also,
      Don’t you think going all in with a girl in a social context like college is a bad idea ? I really feel like discretion plays to anyone s advantage, ever.

    7. Also,
      Don’t you think going all in with a girl in a social context like college is a bad idea ?

      It is a horrible idea. I know since it’s the most common mistake I kept making for years. I just couldn’t stop myself from going all in. It made me feel “like a man” that I can be super-direct and obvious.

      As to a reputation, is there a way to turn this into an advantage too ? Im considered the ultimate fuckboy of my college, which apparently stops many girls to accept a fliratious relationship with me, they cut it short.

      I actually only started getting a handle on this myself recently. It was my biggest issue for years. Literally the only objection I got for years is “So you want to add me to that harem, am I going to be bitch #on the roster”.

      I could only get these girls by being “persistent”… Because when they enter that mode, they want you to reassure them by investing lots of energy (time/effort commitment)… they don’t want to be just another easy lay.

      It’s so ironic that at times I went for months without sex (so 0 girls in the roster) because I kept getting rejected by girls believing I wanted to make them “girl number 9 in the existing roster”. You can still get those girls, but they

      It’s only been a small period of time since I’ve stopped getting this objection… Most of it has to do with what I outlined above. I learned how to move slower, create “vacuum” so she can pursue… that somehow made the objections disappear.

      I think it comes down to just not triggering that “Oh, so i’m just going to be another easy lay for you eh”. Like if you’re too confident, move too fast, and escalate too fast, they get into that mode “oh, so you’re a fuckboy doing this to every girl eh?”

      If you move too fast and she’s attracted: she will get into that mode of “convince me and persuade me by investing a ton of effort so i’m not just another easy lay”. Which ironically takes more time than if you had slowed down in the first place.

      If you move too fast and she’s not attracted: well you’re the sleaze/creep and she’ll inform everyone on campus etc… So it’s a lose lose, however you view it.

      Besides, it is crazy how good your understanding of women is. It really motivates me to initiate contact with as many chicks as possible.

      You should try Aaron then, he’s much further along on the path than I am. Perhaps book a consultation with him? He might have an solution on the above question.

    8. It’s so ironic that at times I went for months without sex (so 0 girls in the roster) because I kept getting rejected by girls believing I wanted to make them “girl number 9 in the existing roster”. You can still get those girls, but they [sentence cutoff]

      Somehow this sentence cutoff, let me finish it:

      I kept getting rejected by girls believing I wanted to make them “girl number 9 in the existing roster”. You can still get those girls, but they want you to “put in the effort”.

      And I was stubborn like “No, I only do super-easy lays, if I have to your viber, go on a coffee date etc, not interested, fuck you bitch, I ain’t investing that effort for you”… And they were stubborn in the other direction “No, I won’t be another easy lay for you, now you have to put in even more effort to get to next level!”.

      ————

      Ironically enough, paradoxically enough, when you slow down (only a little bit, it’s a matter of minutes, not hours)… They don’t put up that defense. So you can get easy/low-effort lays again.

      The irony is that, because you’re in a hurry to get a 5 minute lay, you try to jump from level to level in like 30 seconds. This ends up causing them to jump back and demand a 10 hour commitment (like dating, chatting on viber, bla bla).

      But if you accept that it’s ok to spend 10 minutes at a given level, and give her time to warm up… or that it’s ok to give her a chance to initiate level changes… then the total investment might be as little as 30 minutes. Which you missed out on coz you were rushing it, and ended up getting slammed with an “invest 10 hours” penalty. It’s like a speeding ticket.

      The way you get faster is by getting quick at detecting when you can change a level, not by trying to rush her through the process.

      [rushing her into level changes] ends up causing them to jump back and demand a 10 hour commitment (like dating, chatting on viber, bla bla).

      If they find you attractive of course. If they don’t find you attractive, it causes them to label you a sleaze, creep, etc etc… Rushing is just all-around not productive.

    9. Homie I am amazed.. lol this shit motivated me so much ! Currently working now and I more/less discretly talked to many chicks and have planned something with all of them.. shit makes me so happy. Is there a way I can reach you without having to post everything on the january blog ? You have developed some insight that I never heard of, ever.

    10. Is there a way to get in touch with you ? Email, or so ? Your knowledge about the subject is outstanding.

    11. Is there a way to get in touch with you ? Email, or so ?

      As I already recommended, you can always book a consultation with Sleazy.

  2. Over the last months, I grew a full beard because it’s a natural protection against the cold weather. I thought that women aren’t into kissing guys with full grown beards. However, last weekend I found out that this isn’t necessarilly true when that cute, petite chick approached me on the dancefloor and sticked her tongue in my mouth. Before that there was no talking or body contact at all, we just smiled at each other around 45 minutes before. This is of course just anecdotal and I have not idea if this was an exceptional incident. My question to the more experienced guys: How much does a full grown beard hinder you from making out with women? (Yes, I know it has been mentioned somewhere here that you don’t have to make out with a hottie before having sex with her)

    1. “How much does a full grown beard hinder you from making out with women? ”
      How much does being black hinder a black guy getting laid? – Well, not at all, since the black guy is the chick’s type and so he gets laid 🙂
      If they like beards, they will kiss you with a beard.
      I had several periods of a 3 month beard (and I can grow some nice and thick Eastern European beard^^) and I would also get kisses from the get go in a club, just like you did.
      So it’s not really a problem.
      I’ve asked them “but, doesn’t it scratch you?” And the answer is always something like “It’s manly, I like it.” So, I guess it scratches them, but they don’t mind. Neither do I 🙂
      But really, the question is not if it hinders you or if they don’t like it. More interesting is: What type of women do you get with a beard vs. without a beard. And then you pick what you like best.
      Personally, I get more confident chicks I’d say, because I probably scare the not so confident away. That’s one of the reasons why I shaved it last week despite the cold here. (I pretty much look like the next lone wolf immigrant who will forget his passport in a truck and I realized people look a bit scared at me especially when I wear my dark cap and all you see is black beard and dark eyes).
      Just experiment and be happy that you have this in your tool box, not everybody does.

  3. What’s your opinion on free will? For example, do you think the idea of hating someone for their behaviour makes logical sense? Yesterday I came across the following quote (from Einstein’s Ideas and Opinions), which summarizes my current view on this topic:

    “Schopenhauer’s saying “A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants,” has been a very real inspiration to me since my youth; it has been a continual consolation in the face of life’s hardships, my own and others’, and an unfailing well-spring of tolerance”

  4. Aaron
    Does meditation have positive effect on falling asleep (i.e. shortening the period until you fall asleep)?
    Are there breathing techniques to help with that?
    Any impact on the quality of the sleep itself/the need for more/less sleep?
    Just asking out of curiosity if this exists, no need to go into detail, that would probably go very far.
    Many thanks

    1. 1) Yes.

      2) Unsure.

      3) You’ll fall asleep sooner, so you will spend less time in bed. It’s related to your general levels of anxiety though. Meditation can help you on that frontier, but there is only so much you can get out of it. You’ll probably have a better payoff removing stressors from your life.

    1. with regards to Taleb:
      Do you also think that what he says could have been written in like 4-5 pages?
      I mean, he needs a whole book (in “Fooled by Randomness”) to get across that one should consider a large sample size before making deductions and have a stop loss .
      Every half way serious poker player knows that…
      His student Mark Spitznagel is short the S&P 500 since 2013… Now he might get it right ultimately, but boy is that going to be a draw-down you’d have to sit out…

  5. Hey guys,

    Sorry for the upcoming TL;DR. I have a followup question from the minmaxing thread regarding friendships with women.

    Alek made some really good comments (as usual), but I’m not even close to his level so I fucked up. I’m in a really really dumb situation, but bare with me. Basically there’s a single mom from work – an NGO, with a rather relaxed atmosphere compared to corps that Aaron talks about on his blog. She considers us friends, and personally I’m not sure where I stand because my emotions towards her are mixed up – can’t discern whether I’m doing something only in the hopes of intimacy or if I’d actually be her friend if I didn’t find her attractive. I should mention that she is very extroverted and friendly towards basically everyone, but what I find interesting about her (other than looks) is her high intelligence and just being able to hang out with her, I think. Anyways I already confessed my feelings to her in the past, more than once actually, and I was always swiftly rejected – reasons being I’m not her type physically and she’s attracted to egocentric extroverts (her words, lol) as opposed to me, a ‘hardcore’ introvert.

    Due to my inexperience, I couldn’t really apply Alek’s advice well. I invited her to watch a movie at our office on Sunday, thinking I could keep it casual but in the back of my head I was hoping for something more.

    It was fun, but of course there’s always the wanting to bang her part. I didn’t tell her this in person since we actually weren’t alone and it never felt right even when we were, but later on after we discussed the movie (Memento) on messenger, I mentioned how we should watch movies on a big screen at this apartment I can use sometimes to which she said she wouldn’t come, jokingly saying it’s because I’d rape her. That’s where I said I do want to fuck her, but I’m fine with just watching movies.

    She told me she wouldn’t fuck me, telling me that I don’t want anything to do with someone who has a kid, to which I replied that we don’t have to make it anything serious. That’s when she told me that she never had casual sex and never could because she can’t separate sex and emotions. Also mentioned that she doesn’t enter something that is not preservable long term and that she has a thing for another dude (something she told me in the past when I confessed my emotions to her, although I didn’t specify I only want a casual relationship back then)

    She’s pretty much right about that, I don’t think I would want a LTR with her. Friends with benefits would be nice, but I guess that’s never happening with her. IDK, what advice would you guys give me? I realize she is looking for someone to settle with for life, but a casual relationship wouldn’t stand in the way of that.

    I see her often and she’s touchy feely with me, actually many guys from work lol. Just her personality I guess.

    She did state that she likes me alot, but only in a friendly way, and in a way she does care about me – she seems to always worry if she notices I’m feeling down, though often it was actually because of me feeling bad because she doesn’t find me attractive). Then again she seems to be a pretty empathic person in general.

    I’m not sure I can actually be her friend though, since my feelings are so mixed up.

    1. Forgot to mention this in the above post:
      She also told me that I shouldn’t pressure her about sex (I only mentioned it, tried to be casual about it, didn’t really force it IMO) because she won’t change her opinion about having sex with me. Ever had that happen to you Alek et al?

    2. Let me guess: you have barely any options,thus you chase after every woman who gives you as much as just a weak indication that she likes you. Chasing after a single mom is just bonkers. Where is the strong father figure in your life that could slap you in the face a few times to get that bullshit out of you?

    3. @Aaron
      “Where is the strong father figure in your life that could slap you in the face a few times to get that bullshit out of you?”
      Sadly, it’s a priviledge to have a strong father figure nowadays. I guess the whole PUA industry would be much less populated.

    4. You’re asking the question at the wrong venue. Perhaps try a mainstream dating advice column written by a woman?

      Unless you’re meeting at least 10 women a month, you haven’t applied minimal game (building the lifestyle where you meet them). And hence your question is irrelevant.

      Go read minimal game, apply it, then come back.

    5. I’m not being sarcastic. You’re asking a question about a mainstream dating strategy. You’re asking it at the wrong place.

      It’s like you’re going to ice skaters and asking them for advice on archery.

    6. Why is it impossible though?

      Is it simply because I’ve been marked in her head in a certain way and that’s quite hard to change?

      What is the thing that got me there in the first place? What makes the difference between someone you would fuck and someone who just isn’t that, in a woman’s head? Not good looking enough, some personality traits? If the latter, which ones?

    7. I mean, SHIT, there has to be a way to get out of the friend zone. I fucking hate it :<

      There is a way. Go fuck 10 women who are hotter than her.

    8. Dude, just forget about her. Pretend she’s dead for you, seek more girls. Girls that could be interested in you.

  6. Your story about that lady getting horny at the workplace kitchen made me think about this: how an unexperienced guy can notice when a girl is flirting with him or trying to make a risky approaching -or she’s just being nice or polite?
    I once met a girl in my workplace. She was on training because she was going to rise a level on the chain. Honestly she was the cutest girl I’ve seen there, beautiful green eyes, cute freckles and a nicely shaped face, a real angel on the 3rd World. She was pretty nice, but suddenly it seemed to me that she was being too nice and comfortable with me. But the thing that reaaaaaaally freaked me out: once I was on my station, just relaxing, when I started to walk back, and suddenly felt a hand on my back. I realized that I was going to stumble with someone and stopped suddenly. Then, the hand lingered on my back, started to slip all the way to my wrist, and HOLY SHIT, it was her! I stood there petrified, not knowing what I should do.
    Some girls smile at me, even if I have never even crossed a word with them. Some say ‘hi’ to me with warm smiles, even if I have worked with them just once -again, without crossing a word.
    But the thing is: I’m aware that some girls are just very social and nice, and have no problem smiling and being nice with others, or even being slightly flirty, even if they don’t like you. And there’s also girls that really, really like you and want to jump your bone, yet they act a little bit dry or serious with you because they are too nervous.

    1. how an unexperienced guy can notice when a girl is flirting with him or trying to make a risky approaching -or she’s just being nice or polite?

      That’s simple. Get the experience first. I remember spending so much time reading lists on how to recognize a chick is interested bla bla. Never did anything for me. Can’t learn about it from text.

      You learn by making moves in as many different situations as possible. Eventually you will “get it” with enough experience. That doesn’t mean being completely uncalibrated though. Even if you’re inexperienced you can tell when a girl is “backing off” or responding negatively to a move. You don’t need to “plow”.

      So just make as many moves in as many situations, only stopping when girls give the “don’t proceed” body language. Acquire the experience as fast as you can.

    2. Yeah this thing is intuitive .
      You can’t possibly put together a list with every possible scenarios that could happen and includ the signs in each of them .
      Warm smiles is a great example for this . It could be that she is into you , or she just havin an exceptionally great day.
      Also she can be very outgoing in generally. Was there something between you ? etc etc.
      Simply too much context and variables.

    3. The reason it can’t be written in a list is because there are literally thousands of facial expressions and I think hundreds(?) of facial muscles.

      It’s just impossible to consciously learn this stuff. How do you know the difference between the “i’m being friendly smile” and the “ask me out” smile? You “just know”… a scientist could probably deconstruct it and tell you muscles xyzfgh were pulled in a different way, but whatever…

      You learn by making moves in as many different situations as possible. Eventually you will “get it” with enough experience. That doesn’t mean being completely uncalibrated though. Even if you’re inexperienced you can tell when a girl is “backing off” or responding negatively to a move. You don’t need to “plow”.

      So just make as many moves in as many situations, only stopping when girls give the “don’t proceed” body language. Acquire the experience as fast as you can.

      You might now say “Yeah but your advice is about you hitting on girls, but alek I wanted to know and recognize if a girl is showing interest in me!!”

      Well, two things:

      a) Your reading ability transcends contexts

      In other words if you get a lot of experience making moves on lots of girls, your brain “will learn” the cues and body-language thingies and what they mean

      It means you will also recognize them when girls initiate first.

      b) Answer your question by making the move (doh!)

      Your question is “does she like me”? Well, why don’t you answer it by moving her through the levels? You’ll find out that way. And as a bonus you’re getting your practice in.

      All that matters is do YOU find her attractive. If you do, then it’s time to get that “move making practice” in there. It doesn’t matter whether you suspected she might like you or not. If you find her attractive, get that practice in there.

      So this whole thing about make as many moves on as many girls as possible… it applies to both types of girls. Make moves on the type of girl who “omg it seems she’s trying to hit on me”, but also on the girl who doesn’t. The factor is whether you find her attractive or not…

      At this stage of your development at least.

    4. Your question is “does she like me”? Well, why don’t you answer it by moving her through the levels? You’ll find out that way. And as a bonus you’re getting your practice in.
      But the problem of many incels is that they’re extremely socially awkward, they behave weirdly and without any kind of social awareness. Also, they’re pussies, so they never make a move, even if a girl makes extremely overt sexual moves outside an expected context (the club, a party, etc.)

    5. But the problem of many incels is that they’re extremely socially awkward, they behave weirdly and without any kind of social awareness.

      I got my first 20-30 lays while still being super awkward (like bottom 1% of society in terms of akwardness). I just escalated on them anyway. And I’m still weird to this day.

      The brainwashing is so hard from society that every-time I get laid in some location – to this day, I’m like “why me, why am I getting the lays here and not that other cool guy over there?”

      Guys who are way smoother, cooler, more popular than me, don’t get laid. I’m not cool, I’m not charming, I can’t even (won’t) make much small talk… I just escalate. Girls hit on the other guy, they keep trying to get his attention, give him compliments… but they come home with me. Why? Coz I asked, and he didn’t.

      P.S

      Just think of it this way… women are not that different from us. Imagine two equally attractive girls (physically speaking)

      – Akward Girl is akward and offputing, and you have to pull words out of her mouth, just making conversation with her is a chore

      – Sassy Girl is super-charming and light-hearted and makes you feel comfortable

      Which one would you be more likely to make a move on? Well you’d go for girl B of course, right?

      Plot Twist coming!!!

      Remember that both girls are physically equally attractive… WHAT IF

      – Sassy girl is making it super-easy for you to show interest, makes you feel comfortable, slaps you on the wrist, smiles at everything you say BUT will not make an actual move and waits for you to do it, figure out how it’s going to happen etc… etc..

      – But awkward girl comes to you and says “hey, you wanna fuck, my apartment is empty, my car is right here, let me take you”.

      Then you’d end up fucking the awkward weird girl!! The exact opposite then in the first scenario…

      Here’s a hint, it’s the same with women

      Don’t make moves coz your akward? That makes no sense. That’s like saying don’t diet coz your fat. You have to start somewhere.

      Discussion on levels is here btw:

      http://blog.aaronsleazy.com/index.php/2017/01/01/the-open-thread-january-2017/#comment-1193

      Baby steps. You know, the first levels have NOTHING to do with sexuality. They’re about “neutrally normal social interaction”. That’s the first “move”.

      Are you saying awkward guys shouldn’t make conversations until they’re not akward? But that’s like saying “I can’t go on a diet, coz I’m fat”. It makes no sense.

      The way you become less akward is that you practice. And you practice by making conversations until you’re less akward.

      Or do you mean an akward guy risks scaring/creeping women out by making a move?

      Well that’s what we discussed in the levels discussions. Check it out. You’re probably defining “making the move” as a level 15 action.

      And yes, if an inexperienced guy goes around trying level 15 moves… he’ll just get a ton of bad experiences with women.

      Which is exactly why they should start at level 1… and only move level by level, slowly. Only when you get experienced can you tell if you’re able to skip/jump levels with a given chick.

    6. Well that’s what we discussed in the levels discussions. Check it out. You’re probably defining “making the move” as a level 15 action.

      Ironically I myself did the same thing a few paragraphs above lol…

      – Sassy girl is making it super-easy for you to show interest, makes you feel comfortable, slaps you on the wrist, smiles at everything you say BUT will not make an actual move and waits for you to do it

      I describe this chick doing a bunch of moves, and then finish the sentence saying “she will not make an actual move” (facepalm).

      I should have said “she keeps making lower level moves, but won’t make a higher level move”…

      Also, they’re pussies, so they never make a move, even if a girl makes extremely overt sexual moves outside an expected context (the club, a party, etc.)

      I resent the terminology. But if I were to use your terminology, it’s not incels, it’s most male humans on this planet that are “pussies”.

      Most male model looking guys I know can’t make a bold move even if a girl is throwing herself at him. Most popular, cool, charming guys I know – only get laid if a chick does all the moves… They can’t be very bold.

      Using your language, I’d say “most guys are pussies”…

      Now, I don’t care about the cool guys… I do care about the incels

      I was one 10+ years ago… I read books on incel, visited incel forums, cried myself to sleep. Felt frustrated at about the “impossibility” of how do you get from A to B… So I can relate…

      Here’s what I can tell you for sure. If someone just explained the levels to me at 14, I’d have banged half my high-school by the time I was 16.

      That was my experience. The reason that it seems “so unsurmountable” to an incel is that it’s like a mountain, and you feel like you have to jump over it. Like how the fuck do you jump over a mountain? It’s physically impossible.

      But if you know there are steps… Then it’s doable. And it’s actually a hill, not a mountain, and actually you just take steps walking over it. You don’t jump over it.

  7. This week I found out a girl I chatted with for 2-3 months about 5-6 years ago (while she was a senior in high school in my hometown) is now a big-time porn star. It doesn’t really surprise me, because all she ever liked talking about is how much she loves giving head. She’s this korean+russian chick that goes by the name “Daisy Haze” or “Daisy Summer” now, although that’s not even close to her real name. Anyway, I give it a few years before she gets out of the business and begins looking for a nice guy who is willing to respect her, settle down, and not treat her like the slut she is and that she has a “new outlook on life and intimacy” that the porn industry had been “corrupting” her from.

  8. Hey Aaron, are you aware of any countries where you might have been blocked? I just came back from vacations and noticed that while abroad I could not access either aaronsleazy.com, the forum or the new blog (old blog was still accessible).

    1. As far as I know, blocking happens on an ISP or organizational level. I once used the free wifi at my local bank, and was surprised that about half of the few sites I bookmarked were inaccessible.

    1. I don’t think so as I didn’t have an impartial observer watching over my sleep day after day for years.

  9. Aaron (and Alek) what is your take on women who (claim to be) bisexual or even lesbian, and how common do you think this truly is? For some reason i have the impression that i encounter these types of women more and more, as in actually fantasizing about other women and indulging in sexual encounters with them if the opportunity arises. In some cases it is clear, in others i kind of get a feeling that theyre bullshitting. Is this something they possibly do “to be cool”, does it have a social or cultural reason, is it genuine and are truly heterosexual women becoming rarer entities these days? This has made me quite curious recently and id love to hear your opinion on this topic.

    1. Attention-whoring plays a big role. When you see two girls make out in a night club, more often than not they are doing it for the attention.

    1. That thing is old as fuck. I remember reading some article about that in 2005. And yes, if you’re an average guy ad get the 2nd place, you feel (key word: feel) that you could have done it better, but if you get the 3rd place, you (are supposed to) feel relieved that at least you got something.

  10. What strength programs are you running for a bulk? I used to follow Berkhan’s RPT Method four times per week. Thinking about switching to try greyskull. Not looking for advice just curious about your programs as well as training frequency. Thanks

    1. I do a split routine: upper body Mon/Thur and lower body Tue/Fri. My lower body workout is relatively short as I don’t want my thighs to get too large. I keep track of this intuitively, i.e. if my trousers get a bit too tight in the thigh area, I’ll take it a bit easier.

    1. There could be a weak correlation, but I am generally doubtful as we are not living in a society in which everyone gets the same opportunities. You will certainly find your fair share of highly intelligent crassly tattooed guys among criminals, particularly in organized crime.

      Men who have tattoos in places that can easily be covered by clothes most certainly score higher on agreeableness than those that don’t, though.

  11. Today is some women’s march protesting Trump…all over the world.

    Uh, isn’t Merkel and her rape-fugee policy more harmful to women then Trump’s posturing about grabbing women by the p***y?

    1. That’s because women’s prerogative to keep up the pussy cartel is stronger than their desire about lowering rape.

      Pretending that rape is the thing that scares them most – is just public posturing. I’m not saying it doesn’t scare them. It’s not number one.

      The thing that frightens them far more is that Johnny Provider learns what sluts they are. If every guy woke up tomorrow knowing what women do around rich/famous/hot guys… no guy on this planet would EVER again settle for the provider role.

    2. Relatedly, it’s pretty ubiquitous that women everywhere, in real life and on social media, idolize male stars and exclaim how they are oh-so ardently in love with them. I’ve never understood why they do that. No sane guy who sees a woman act like that would ever want to be associated with let alone provide for her.

    3. Women in my workplace want Trump to fail. The rationale : if Trump is successful then other ppl like him (ie saying eff you you to SJW and other parasites) will be the model for future leaders.

      All this without realizing that feminists and SJWs brought Trump and Brexit upon themselves.

    1. My first reaction was that this was a misunderstanding, but it is really that Kirsten Stewart, a woman who barely finished high school. It is safe to assume that her contribution was at best minimal.

    2. Neural networks sound fancy but they usually involve a lot of menial work.

      For example in order to train NN to recognize cars you would need to gather large amount of pictures of various cars under different illuminations and perspectives. Then you would need to landmark the image which means assigning predetermined points on various parts of the car (windshield, tires, registration etc…).

      So theoretically it is possible for a highschool dropout to contribute to NN paper lol

  12. Priceless tweet from this weekend:

    “Trump got more fat women to walk today,
    than Michelle Obama did in eight years.”

    (I believe Michelle had some program to try to get people to move more/be more active…)

  13. Hi,

    I’ve mentioned the girl I have a crush on earlier and how I got friendzoned, she will still sometimes message me about her emotional problems, probably because one time in the past I was a good crying shoulder.

    I don’t want to be a dick and reject her just because of my ego (I guess I can’t stand that she doesn’t find me sexually attractive) – wouldn’t you help a person who would come to you for support?

    What do you guys do in this situation?

    What’s weird is that I’ve also teased her alot and even been an asshole a few times towards her. I guess that’s more proof that you can’t create attraction – if I had more muscle/was taller and more extroverted, then maybe she would’ve find me attractive.

  14. I have a question about girls out of my social class. I’ve really never been confident growing up about my looks. 5 ft 8 in, skinny and stuff. But I do have a decent face supposedly and naturally broad shoulders. Anyways, I’m dating a girl who is pretty cute and stands at barely over 6 ft. Seeing as how I’m super busy with school, study, work, eating, sleeping and getting laid, I don’t really focus on other girls at all.

    So at the hospital I work at there is a cute, skinny, late 20’s PA there that literally currently makes about 6x more than me. Though I was super surprised when she passes me a post it note with her number on it one day when I walked by. I honestly began fantasizing about fucking her, but considering my schedule and us working at the same building made me think it was just better off let go.

    I guess my point is that I’ve always been super low confidence and awkward, but through experience I just don’t give as much of a fuck anymore. Perhaps it turns out that at I’m at least somewhat good looking albeit short and skinny. When I have more time, I wonder what would happen if I were to lift seriously for a year or 2. But why would the PA see me as a potential playmate other than she just wanted some cock? Certainly she wouldn’t put herself out on the line like that at work if she wasn’t already very attracted to me for whatever reason.

    1. Let me quote you: “I was super surprised when she passes me a post it note with her number on it one day when I walked by.” Let that sink in for a moment.

  15. Okay. Surprised because 1. That hardly ever happens to me 2. She’s attractive (to me) and well off (other than prob a ton of debt, though still higher status than any girl I’ve ever been with).

    So, i shouldn’t have been surprised if I was more observant? We did flirt a lot and she hugged once before then. For her to make that move was unexpected, however.

    I realize my post was scatterbrained. I’ve just never had a lot of luck before now. Why would someone like her want to hook up with me? Am I still missing the point here? Sorry if I am.

    1. Totally makes sense. Core psychopathic trait is sensation seeking and I simply can’t imagine someone who craves excitement as being conservative.

      Title of the article is wrong though lol. Being ‘psychotic’ means having delusions or hallucinations, correct adjective in this case is ‘psychopathic’.

    2. Yeah this cind of crazy is very common in movies- the “bad guy” often is quite hesitant to kill the good guy, while as soon as the good guy has even the slightest chance to kill the bad guy he goes for it, remind me again who is the most bloodthirsty of the two (well of course the “bad guy” ’cause we all know he is the bad guy, so no need to show empathy or normal human decency, no double standard there)

      One has to wonder how crazy or stupid the liberals have to be to not realize the paradox between their beloved signs of “Love trumps hate”, and their crazy rioting in the streets, and just general crazines as lovely demonstrated by the youtube clip you posted (was there crazy rioting after Obama was elected- of course not….)
      “Yes, we celebrate democracy….. as long as we don’t loose….. but hey we’re the good guys, so no problem….”

      For those interested, at least some of this lunacy can possibly be explained by how oxytocin works (previously called “the love hormone”), several behaviours raises our oxytocin levels including being cind to others and wishing others well and so on, suposedly this is some of the favourite behaviours of liberals…, well studies indicate that oxytocin also makes one feel more envy and behave more aggressively towards “enemies” and “intruders”/those not of one’s own group…, so yeah one could therefore possibly refer to liberals as a group of people who love getting high on oxytocin and all the instability and craziness that might entail (of course not saying that oxytocin is in any way “bad”, just saying that people need to also use their heads, and not just surf mindlessly away on their feelings…)

      (a reference: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17563-cuddle-chemical-may-create-green-eyed-monster/?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=life )

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